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Doug McKenty dougmck at gmail.com
Mon Jun 20 16:49:10 PDT 2016


I cannot agree more Kelly. All due respect to Liz, Scott has posted a lot of facts here that are serious and deserve to be looked at objectively. Please do not kill the messenger.

One of the most interesting experiences of my life has been engaging in factual discourse with those who have taken control of KZYX and been constantly accused of "personal attacks," while never presented with opposing factual evidence. It is just a way of avoiding inconvenient truths. 

One more point, it is true that those of us who have trade the bylaws and policies of MCPB, as well as studied the last eight years of financial audits and read the BoD meeting minutes often get upset by what we discover, especially when our observations fall on deaf ears by those who haven't spent the time to familiarize themselves with this documentation. 

Please forgive us if we are frustrated, but watching MCPB slowly go bankrupt while refusing to follow policies designed to make it function for our community is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. 

Doug

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> On Jun 20, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Kelly Grimes <grimie at mcn.org> wrote:
> 
> I for one appreciate Scott's posts.  He makes a statement and then posts 
> a link to back up his original idea.  Sometimes his statements are 
> abrasive, but it appears that his findings are also quite disturbing.  
> Unfortunately, I have seen very few rebuttals to his statements that 
> contain anything other than some form of "kill the messenger".  Telling 
> me that Scott P. is a dirtball or bad parent or overall sketchy dude 
> does nothing to dispute his comments, no matter how crazy he is, his 
> statements seem rooted in logical, factual arguments.
> 
> For instance, Liz, if he is distorting, please let me know where.  He is 
> not personally attacking a board member when he tells them they are not 
> doing their job.  He is stating his opinion.  The board member needs to 
> stand up and factually dispute his claim and not attack his character.  
> The Board is doing a job for US, the membership, and they need to be 
> accountable.  There is nothing wrong with asking for some evidence of 
> job performance when we are paying the bill.
> 
> If in fact, Mr. Peterson's claims are constantly refuted with facts 
> which discredit; his statements will eventually fall on deaf ears.  If 
> however, his character is attacked when he questions policy then I 
> become interested.
> 
> Finally, the idea that the administrator of this or any site is 
> responsible for fact checking or somehow censoring the people or 
> thoughts expressed is ludicrous.  The beauty of the open forum is that 
> there is transparency and all opinions can be heard and should be 
> heard.  The more people who participate, the more lively the discussion 
> and the more "fact checked" the information dispersed.  So, please can 
> we welcome differing opinions and information without attacking those 
> who present the info.
> 
> Unfortunately, I will be out of town for the next board meeting, which I 
> was planning on attending.  Scott Peterson has raised many legitimate 
> questions that need to be addressed.  If the board, somehow dodges the 
> questions and leaves without providing answers to the membership, I 
> would find that to be very suspect and would most likely step up my 
> participation in discovering the truth.
> 
> with respect,
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 6/20/2016 12:24 PM, Tim Gregory wrote:
>> irie know,
>> no sufferation for vituperation...
>> 
>> sorry to feel the need to say it again, but norman is TERRIBLE as a list
>> administrator. wish i could see a show of hands on this...
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Bernie,
>> Knowing your expressions typically bend toward peacemaking, I am appalled that you
>> stroke Peterson for his "advocacy."Â
>> 
>> Constructive criticism by stakeholders is valuable, even essential. Peterson's
>> endless carping, meanspeak, distortions, & personal attacks are merely destructive.
>> I don't understand how you could align with his maliciousness.
>> Peace,
>> Liz
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     On Friday, June 17, 2016 11:27 PM, BC <omni at mcn.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>   I heard 4Â  sources (including NPR) say that trust in fellow humans is fundamental
>> to good mental health.
>>  That  fundamental quality seems critical in forming and maintaining solid
>> relationships & community. Â
>>  Thanks for your advocacy Scott.
>> 
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