[Kzyxtalk] Automated Radio

Brent Rusert rusert at mcn.org
Mon Jun 20 20:06:28 PDT 2016


I personally thank Scott and the others, inc. J.S., Doug and Bernie for
their diligence. Diligence is what board members are expected to exercise
for the benefit of their (OUR) Corporation - MCPB. It appears that Sakowicz
was correct. 


On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:49:10 -0700, Doug McKenty <dougmck at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I cannot agree more Kelly. All due respect to Liz, Scott has posted a
lot
> of facts here that are serious and deserve to be looked at objectively.
> Please do not kill the messenger.
> 
> One of the most interesting experiences of my life has been engaging in
> factual discourse with those who have taken control of KZYX and been
> constantly accused of "personal attacks," while never presented with
> opposing factual evidence. It is just a way of avoiding inconvenient
> truths. 
> 
> One more point, it is true that those of us who have trade the bylaws
and
> policies of MCPB, as well as studied the last eight years of financial
> audits and read the BoD meeting minutes often get upset by what we
> discover, especially when our observations fall on deaf ears by those
who
> haven't spent the time to familiarize themselves with this
documentation. 
> 
> Please forgive us if we are frustrated, but watching MCPB slowly go
> bankrupt while refusing to follow policies designed to make it function
for
> our community is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Kelly Grimes <grimie at mcn.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I for one appreciate Scott's posts.  He makes a statement and then
posts 
>> a link to back up his original idea.  Sometimes his statements are 
>> abrasive, but it appears that his findings are also quite disturbing.  
>> Unfortunately, I have seen very few rebuttals to his statements that 
>> contain anything other than some form of "kill the messenger".  Telling

>> me that Scott P. is a dirtball or bad parent or overall sketchy dude 
>> does nothing to dispute his comments, no matter how crazy he is, his 
>> statements seem rooted in logical, factual arguments.
>> 
>> For instance, Liz, if he is distorting, please let me know where.  He
is 
>> not personally attacking a board member when he tells them they are not

>> doing their job.  He is stating his opinion.  The board member needs to

>> stand up and factually dispute his claim and not attack his character. 

>> The Board is doing a job for US, the membership, and they need to be 
>> accountable.  There is nothing wrong with asking for some evidence of 
>> job performance when we are paying the bill.
>> 
>> If in fact, Mr. Peterson's claims are constantly refuted with facts 
>> which discredit; his statements will eventually fall on deaf ears.  If 
>> however, his character is attacked when he questions policy then I 
>> become interested.
>> 
>> Finally, the idea that the administrator of this or any site is 
>> responsible for fact checking or somehow censoring the people or 
>> thoughts expressed is ludicrous.  The beauty of the open forum is that 
>> there is transparency and all opinions can be heard and should be 
>> heard.  The more people who participate, the more lively the discussion

>> and the more "fact checked" the information dispersed.  So, please can 
>> we welcome differing opinions and information without attacking those 
>> who present the info.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I will be out of town for the next board meeting, which
I 
>> was planning on attending.  Scott Peterson has raised many legitimate 
>> questions that need to be addressed.  If the board, somehow dodges the 
>> questions and leaves without providing answers to the membership, I 
>> would find that to be very suspect and would most likely step up my 
>> participation in discovering the truth.
>> 
>> with respect,
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 6/20/2016 12:24 PM, Tim Gregory wrote:
>>> irie know,
>>> no sufferation for vituperation...
>>> 
>>> sorry to feel the need to say it again, but norman is TERRIBLE as a
list
>>> administrator. wish i could see a show of hands on this...
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Bernie,
>>> Knowing your expressions typically bend toward peacemaking, I am
>>> appalled that you
>>> stroke Peterson for his "advocacy."Â
>>> 
>>> Constructive criticism by stakeholders is valuable, even essential.
>>> Peterson's
>>> endless carping, meanspeak, distortions, & personal attacks are merely
>>> destructive.
>>> I don't understand how you could align with his maliciousness.
>>> Peace,
>>> Liz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     On Friday, June 17, 2016 11:27 PM, BC <omni at mcn.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I heard 4Â  sources (including NPR) say that trust in fellow humans
>>>   is fundamental
>>> to good mental health.
>>>  That  fundamental quality seems critical in forming and maintaining
>>>  solid
>>> relationships & community. Â
>>>  Thanks for your advocacy Scott.
>>> 
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