[Kzyxtalk] pattern recognition

Fri Jun 17 13:39:38 PDT 2016

lol, not consciously hiding anything 'actionable', eric...glad SOMEBODY likes the
show...

doug, if they look worth it to you, you and smp go...i replied to john c's
questions, since smp seems incapable.
---

Doug, Tim may be hiding something and I  glad you may be giving him the
confidence building, so the seemingly missing $200,000 can be recovered
from insurance for the station. Come on Tim, what is it? We like your show,
even if it seems sometimes someone is venting. Eric

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Doug McKenty* <dougmck at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, June 17, 2016
Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] pattern recognition
To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
Cc: "tex at well.com" <tex at well.com>, "suspiry at gmail.com" <suspiry at gmail.com>,
"mcourtney1 at mcn.org" <mcourtney1 at mcn.org>

Tim,

Rather than engaging in personal attacks, will you please stick to the
facts.

It looks to me like these form 990s are important. They are required for
the CPB grant.

Do you disagree with Scotts assessment that these are typically presented
to the board at an open meeting or that these from 990s have not been
presented to the board of MCPC.  This lack of transparency puts the CPB
grant at risk. Are you concerned about that?

>From my personal experience, when I was on the board I did not know what
form 990's were or that they had anything to do with the CPB grant.
In other words, I didn't even know what questions to ask to management
about the finances.

Would you agree that the board of MCPB might think about having some type
of board training? It is one of their current policies, but they haven't
done it in over a decade.

Please start talking about solutions rather than pretending that problems
don't exist.

Doug

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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Tim Gregory <tgregory at saber.net
<javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> in reply to j coate's last two questions:
>
>
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/2270961-181/791000-defamation-verdict-in-mendocino
>
>
http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20CACO%2020120217022/PETERSON%20v.%20STEWART
>
> again, i think the saddest feature here on this list is the lack of
admin's
> admonishment of certain self-important personalities.
>
> this list, or something like it, is a badly needed forum.
>
> ---
>
>
> Dear Mr. Coate,
>
> I didn't know that making a point was required here. I was simply
>
> asking for reasonable inquiry. Something required by State law. if Ms.
>
> Courtney sees no cause-and-effect relationship between MCPB policy
>
> and grant revenue, that's fine. But it seems like a reasonable inquiry
>
> to me. And maybe to other MCPB directors as well.
>
> But since you're here, I've got a few questions for you.
>
> 1.     What's the purpose of that policy?
>
> 2.     Who was the sponsor?
>
> 3.     How did that policy come about?
>
> Feel free to answer them if you like. I'm not demanding any answers
>
> here. But they'd certainly help.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Scott M. Peterson
>
> Mendocino
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> And your point is what exactly?  That because the MCPB Board didnâ€™t
insist on
> looking over our tax filing is the cause of KZYXâ€™s financial challenges?
And that
> because the EFF does that, they have done better?  Really?  You think
that is what
> it is about?In fact, I supplied the Board with great detail about KZYXâ€™s
finances
> almost constantly.  And any of the 28 Board members I served under who
showed still
> greater interest was the recipient of as much, or more, detail as they
wanted.  If
> any Board member wanted to look over, or call a vote on, the 990, I would
have been
> happy to supply it.  But I think none of them thought it was necessary,
due to the
> fact that I kept them supplied with plenty of detail necessary to do
their work as
> Board members.So again, what is your real point here?  I was constantly
being
> accused of not being â€œtransparentâ€ enough by people who, to me, seemed
never to
> really come clean about their own goals and motives.  Should I include
you in that
> group or are you going to spell out where you are really coming from with
this?John
> Coatetex at well.comjohn@edgeryders.eujohncoate.com707-357-2223
>
> On Jun 17, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Scott Peterson <
scottmartinpeterson at hotmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:Dear Ms. Courtney,As you should know by now, MCPB has had a unique
policy
> regardingForm 990s over the past five years. It states very clearly on
the Form990s:
> "No review was or will be conducted." That policy appears on"Schedule O"
-- as an
> organizational policy. It appears on Form 990sfor 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
and 2014.
> You can see them all
> here:
http://nccsweb.urban.org/communityplatform/nccs/organization/profile/id/680050440/popup/1That
> policy was exercised by MCPB's Executive Director, without theinvolvement
of MCPB's
> Board of Directors. And grant revenue hasn'tchanged much over that
five-year time
> period. The Executive Directorfor that entire time period was John Coate.
I believe
> that Mr. Coate was mistaken about the existence of this policy. Please
see your
> email of April 10, 2016 below.According to Mr. Coate's resume, he was
once the chief
> fundraiser at the Electronic Frontier Foundation in 2002-03. His resume is
> here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncoateEFF had a completely different
policy
> about reviewing its Form 990s.You can see those Form 990s
> here:
http://nccsweb.urban.org/communityplatform/nccs/organization/profile/id/043091431/popup/1Here's
> the policy: "After the Form 990 is prepared, but before it is filed with
the IRS,
> the completed form will be presented to all members ofthe board of
directors, who
> will be given at least one week to reviewand provide feedback and
revisions. The
> Form 990 may be filed withthe IRS only after all board member comments
have been
> addressedand at least one board member has given final approval." That
policycan
> also be found on "Schedule O." Over the same time period, EFF'sgrant
revenue has
> grown from approximately $2.5 million to well over$13 million.So my
question to you
> is this. Do you see any apparent cause-and-effectrelationship between
Form 990
> review policy and grant revenue?Sincerely,Scott M. PetersonMendocinoPS:
I'm copying
> this email to a newly seated MCBP Board Member, Mr. Jonathan Middlebrook
for his
> information. And also to Mr. Coate for hisinformation as well.- - - - - -
- - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Scott,According to our ex- GM
John Coate,
> there IS NO policy.  Where did you get this information? John did not
know what I
> was talking about when I inquired. Please let us know why you think this
is the
> case?Meg CourtneyBoard PresidentKZYX & ZMendocino County Public
Broadcasting
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