[Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....

Tue Mar 1 18:44:58 PST 2016

John,
Obviously someone "clicked" the wrong button and exposed
most or all of the "insider" e-addresses.  For this Ed Snowdon
effort we should express thanks.  Slowly the walls come down.
Are you a member of the Ukiah Co-op?  And excellent example
of how a membership organization can be run.
The content of the Tim missive is probably beyond most every
one.  I'm just happy to have the e-address list which has been
sequestered for how long?
Norman

On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:34 PM, sako4 at comcast.net wrote:

> What does this all mean, Norman? Very confusing.
> 
> From: "Norman de Vall" <ndevall at mcn.org>
> To: "kzyxtalk" <kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:06:11 PM
> Subject: [Kzyxtalk] Fwd:  A proposal, and I need your collective memory....
> 
> fyi
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Tim Gregory" <tgregory at saber.net>
> Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....
> Date: March 1, 2016 2:56:53 PM PST
> To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> Reply-To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> 
> no, you were obviously a mistake to  be included, and you proved it right away.
> ---
> 
> 
> 
> At last, we're included in the conversation:
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Jerry Fraley" <operations at kzyx.org>
> Subject: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....
> Date: February 29, 2016 9:06:19 PM PST
> To: "'Angela DeWitt'" <ms.adewitt at gmail.com>, "'General Manager'" <gm at kzyx.org>,
> <membership at kzyx.org>, <uw at kzyx.org>, "'Barbara Lamb'" <blamb at pacific.net>, "'Bob
> Vaughan'" <est.prophet at yahoo.com>, "'Cheri Christianson'" <chrisarn at mcn.org>,
> "'Chris Skyhawk'" <hawkrad at mcn.org>, "'Colleen Bassett'" <colleenb at pacific.net>,
> "'Dave Barre'" <dabarre at wildblue.net>, "'Diane Hering'" <dhering at pacific.net>,
> "'Doug Livingston'" <livingstonconsulting at hughes.net>, "'Doug Mosel'"
> <dmosel at wildblue.net>, "'Eric Labowitz'" <lab at pacific.net>, "'Floriane Weyrich'"
> <fweyrich at msn.com>, "'Fred Wooley'" <freddybudd at starband.net>, "'Gordon Black'"
> <gblack at mcn.org>, "'Greg Krouse'" <earthdance at saber.net>, "'Jamie Roberts'"
> <jamier at mcn.org>, "'Jeffrey Blankfort'" <jblankfort at earthlink.net>, "'Jeremy
> Dodds'" <Skaselecter at yahoo.com>, "'Jim Heid'" <Jim at jimheid.com>, "'Jimmy Humble'"
> <jimmy at pacific.net>, "'Johanna Cummings'" <JC at wildoak.org>, "'Katharine Cole'"
> <katharine at katharinecole.com>, "'Linda MacElwee'" <lsmacelwee at hotmail.com>,
> "'Lorena Calvo-Evans'" <lorejim8 at yahoo.com>, "'Marcia Lotter'" <mlotter at mcn.org>,
> "'Marvin Trotter'" <trotterm at co.mendocino.ca.us>, "'Michael Arago'"
> <mmbarago at mcn.org>, "'Norman de Vall'" <ndevall at mcn.org>, "'Patrick Gomes'"
> <gomes at mcn.org>, "'Pippa Thomas'" <pipsteve at pacific.net>, "'Richard Herr'"
> <eandrherr at dishmail.net>, "'Rick Blaufeld'" <rick at mendocinoguitars.com>, "'Ron
> Reed'" <mrdjreed at comcast.net>, "'Steve Garner'" <Sharonart_95432 at yahoo.com>, "'Tim
> Bray'" <tbray at wildblue.net>, "'Verge Belanger'" <contactverge at yahoo.com>
> 
> I have a proposal in mind in regard to the Internet streaming side of the KZYX
> broadcasts…  Bear with me here:
> 
> We currently create 3 streams in real-time:
>        96 Kbps, mono encoded as stereo with high sample rate (44.1Khz)
>        32 Kbps, mono encoded as ????? same sample rate [This is a target for
> “dialup” users,
>                                                                                           and
> like,
> when
> did
> I
> ever
> get
> 32K
>                                                                                           on
> a
> dialup,
> like,
> um,
> never]
>        96 Kbps, mono encoded as ???? (checking) for a Shoutcast server
> 
> Now I draw upon the collective memory about the Shoutcast connection—is it used
> for anything real???  The main stream is used to feed the jukebox (and more on
> that later, soon….)  Shoutcast is a stream frontend, an “Internet Radio” index of
> sorts, basically micro-streamer marketing, however, this organization is a radio
> station, we absolutely /are/ a marketing organization, we don’t need the shoutcast
> exposure, it draws consumers away from our main product and the outlets for
> consuming them.
> 
> And in my opinion, that outlet should be of high quality.
> 
> The proposal:   I want to totally eliminate the Shoutcast stream and dedicate that
> bandwidth to create a quality full-stereo stream.
> 
> The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
> The Ugly—the small mixer that is used to control the levels on the streamer has
> reached the end of it’s life.  The thing operates so hot that over time the solder
> connections inside are suffering, the pan pot unseats and leaves the right channel
> at 0db, it’s annoying to have to check it so much.
> 
> The Bad -- when I was untangling cables in the rack last night, I discovered the
> source audio for the rack is being drawn from an output meant for an FM
> transmitter—it’s not an audio output at all (it just so happens that the low end
> of the IF /is/ the MONO part of the signal, but it’s a signal meant to be
> connected to an audio input, so I’m just shaking my head on this one.)
> 
> The Good – the AudioIP system blade in the rack has many extra outputs (only one
> really used, that’s the transmitter digital feed), and I want to create an analog
> mirror output and feed that to a new little mixer, ultimately creating a stereo
> input to the streamer device.
> 
> [Oh, I see Johanna is already on top of the sound of The Bad and The Ugly in a
> different email.  Awesome!   So, memories, feedback, help me out here folks, I
> want to move forward unless the current configuration is critical to some world
> domination plan… J
> 
> 
> Thanks all for tolerating my soapboxing!
> 
> Jerry Fraley
> Interim Operations Director
> KZYX-FM & KZYZ-FM
> 707-895-2324
> jerry_fraley at yahoo.com
> 
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