[Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....

sako4 at comcast.net sako4 at comcast.net
Tue Mar 1 17:34:52 PST 2016 

What does this all mean, Norman? Very confusing. 

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From: "Norman de Vall" <ndevall at mcn.org> 
To: "kzyxtalk" <kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:06:11 PM 
Subject: [Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory.... 

fyi 

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From: "Tim Gregory" < tgregory at saber.net > 
Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory.... 
Date: March 1, 2016 2:56:53 PM PST 
To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org 
Reply-To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org 

no, you were obviously a mistake to be included, and you proved it right away. 
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At last, we're included in the conversation: 

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From: "Jerry Fraley" < operations at kzyx.org > 



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Subject: A proposal, and I need your collective memory.... 

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Date: February 29, 2016 9:06:19 PM PST 

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To: "'Angela DeWitt'" < ms.adewitt at gmail.com >, "'General Manager'" < gm at kzyx.org >, 

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< membership at kzyx.org >, < uw at kzyx.org >, "'Barbara Lamb'" < blamb at pacific.net >, "'Bob 

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Vaughan'" < est.prophet at yahoo.com >, "'Cheri Christianson'" < chrisarn at mcn.org >, 

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"'Chris Skyhawk'" < hawkrad at mcn.org >, "'Colleen Bassett'" < colleenb at pacific.net >, 

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"'Dave Barre'" < dabarre at wildblue.net >, "'Diane Hering'" < dhering at pacific.net >, 

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"'Doug Livingston'" < livingstonconsulting at hughes.net >, "'Doug Mosel'" 

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< dmosel at wildblue.net >, "'Eric Labowitz'" < lab at pacific.net >, "'Floriane Weyrich'" 

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< fweyrich at msn.com >, "'Fred Wooley'" < freddybudd at starband.net >, "'Gordon Black'" 

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< gblack at mcn.org >, "'Greg Krouse'" < earthdance at saber.net >, "'Jamie Roberts'" 

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< jamier at mcn.org >, "'Jeffrey Blankfort'" < jblankfort at earthlink.net >, "'Jeremy 

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Dodds'" < Skaselecter at yahoo.com >, "'Jim Heid'" < Jim at jimheid.com >, "'Jimmy Humble'" 

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< jimmy at pacific.net >, "'Johanna Cummings'" < JC at wildoak.org >, "'Katharine Cole'" 

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< katharine at katharinecole.com >, "'Linda MacElwee'" < lsmacelwee at hotmail.com >, 

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"'Lorena Calvo-Evans'" < lorejim8 at yahoo.com >, "'Marcia Lotter'" < mlotter at mcn.org >, 

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"'Marvin Trotter'" < trotterm at co.mendocino.ca.us >, "'Michael Arago'" 

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< mmbarago at mcn.org >, "'Norman de Vall'" < ndevall at mcn.org >, "'Patrick Gomes'" 

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< gomes at mcn.org >, "'Pippa Thomas'" < pipsteve at pacific.net >, "'Richard Herr'" 

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< eandrherr at dishmail.net >, "'Rick Blaufeld'" < rick at mendocinoguitars.com >, "'Ron 

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Reed'" < mrdjreed at comcast.net >, "'Steve Garner'" < Sharonart_95432 at yahoo.com >, "'Tim 

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Bray'" < tbray at wildblue.net >, "'Verge Belanger'" < contactverge at yahoo.com > 

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I have a proposal in mind in regard to the Internet streaming side of the KZYX 

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broadcasts… Bear with me here: 

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We currently create 3 streams in real-time: 

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96 Kbps, mono encoded as stereo with high sample rate (44.1Khz) 

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32 Kbps, mono encoded as ????? same sample rate [This is a target for 

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“dialup” users, 

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and 

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like, 

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when 

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did 

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I 

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ever 

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get 

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32K 

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on 

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a 

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dialup, 

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like, 

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um, 

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never] 

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96 Kbps, mono encoded as ???? (checking) for a Shoutcast server 

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Now I draw upon the collective memory about the Shoutcast connection—is it used 

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for anything real??? The main stream is used to feed the jukebox (and more on 

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that later, soon….) Shoutcast is a stream frontend, an “Internet Radio” index of 

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sorts, basically micro-streamer marketing, however, this organization is a radio 

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station, we absolutely /are/ a marketing organization, we don’t need the shoutcast 

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exposure, it draws consumers away from our main product and the outlets for 

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consuming them. 

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And in my opinion, that outlet should be of high quality. 

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The proposal: I want to totally eliminate the Shoutcast stream and dedicate that 

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bandwidth to create a quality full-stereo stream. 

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The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly 

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The Ugly—the small mixer that is used to control the levels on the streamer has 

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reached the end of it’s life. The thing operates so hot that over time the solder 

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connections inside are suffering, the pan pot unseats and leaves the right channel 

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at 0db, it’s annoying to have to check it so much. 

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The Bad -- when I was untangling cables in the rack last night, I discovered the 

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source audio for the rack is being drawn from an output meant for an FM 

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transmitter—it’s not an audio output at all (it just so happens that the low end 

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of the IF /is/ the MONO part of the signal, but it’s a signal meant to be 

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connected to an audio input, so I’m just shaking my head on this one.) 

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The Good – the AudioIP system blade in the rack has many extra outputs (only one 

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really used, that’s the transmitter digital feed), and I want to create an analog 

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mirror output and feed that to a new little mixer, ultimately creating a stereo 

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input to the streamer device. 

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[Oh, I see Johanna is already on top of the sound of The Bad and The Ugly in a 

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different email. Awesome! So, memories, feedback, help me out here folks, I 

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want to move forward unless the current configuration is critical to some world 

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domination plan… J 

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Thanks all for tolerating my soapboxing! 

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Jerry Fraley 

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Interim Operations Director 

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KZYX-FM & KZYZ-FM 

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707-895-2324 

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jerry_fraley at yahoo.com 

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