[Kzyxtalk] Kzyxtalk Digest, Vol 27, Issue 32

Sat Apr 30 22:59:21 PDT 2016

Re discrepancy in number of words in Programming Policies:
Many thanks to Scott for finding a version online that included the appendices.  Please note that the version I posted did not include them.  That is why it is shorter.  All else appears the same.  In this instance I see no effort to hide anything.
Denny

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Today's Topics:

  1.  KZYX Programming Policy (Scott Peterson)
  2. Hoi, hoi u embleer hrair! M'saion ule' hraka vair! (Marco McClean)
  3. CAB Programmer Policy (Scott Peterson)
  4. Re: CAB Programmer Policy (Doug McKenty)
  5.  Hoi, hoi u embleer hrair! M'saion ule' hraka vair!
      (Scott Peterson)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:49:59 +0000
From: Scott Peterson <scottmartinpeterson at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Kzyxtalk]  KZYX Programming Policy
To: "kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org" <kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org>,
    "lorraine at kzyx.org"    <lorraine at kzyx.org>, "gm at kzyx.org" <gm at kzyx.org>
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this is interesting .. the Programming Policy here -- dated December 9, 2008 -- is 1,706 words long .. I copied / pasted 

into Microsoft Word to get that count .. I did the same for the Programming Policy here:

http://media.kzyx.org/mp3/Policies/_MCPB%20Programming%20Policy.pdf

also dated December 9, 2008 .. but the word count is 2,651 .. 

all the MCPB meeting minutes are here:

http://www.kzyx.org/index.php/about-us/station-business/meeting-minutes

I haven't seen any minutes where the board of directors amended this policy .. but maybe I'm missing something .. 

so I'm copying this via email to Lorraine and Raoul with three questions:

--- which 945 words were removed from the Programming Policy dated December 9, 2008? .. 

--- who approved that removal? .. 

--- who did the proof reading on the new Programming Policy? (it's KZYX & Z, not KYX &Z) ..

also FYI, all approved MCPB policies can be found here:

http://media.kzyx.org/mp3/Policies/

that includes the 2,651 word Programming Policy .. 

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Many thanks to Lorraine and Raoul for putting time and energy into implementing the Programming Policy and the Program Advisory Council (see below).  I am posting the policy itself so everyone knows what is involved.  It was difficult to reformat for this list, but it is readable.  The appendix referred to was even more difficult, so it is not included.  Perhaps the full Programming Policy could be put on the website, along with the Bylaws.  Perhaps all the policies could go there?  Would make discussions easier, more productive.

Denny                         
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:29:48 -0700
From: Marco McClean <memo at mcn.org>
Subject: [Kzyxtalk] Hoi, hoi u embleer hrair! M'saion ule' hraka vair!
To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
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The recording of last night's (2016-04-29) 107.7fm KNYO (and 105.1 KMEC) 
Memo of the Air: Good Night Radio show is available to download and 
listen to via http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com

Scott Peterson called at 9:30 (half an hour into the show) and we talked 
for an hour about the glaring financial chicanery involved in Mendocino 
County's nonprofit corporations in general and the ones that run the 
Coast Hospital and KZYX in specific, who seem particularly prone to roll 
over under the leadership of perpetrators of what some might call 
obfuscatory ethical jiggery-pokery.

Also at http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com you'll find a plethora of 
links to not necessarily radio-useful but worthwhile things to see and 
do and learn about, such as:

Kung fu motion visualization. https://vimeo.com/163153865

Web of life. https://www.nextnature.net/2016/04/complex-networks-planet/

Everyday objects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItdqB9NrimI

Even better NASA high-rez solar flare videos than ever before. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ski2JSA-Xh0

And the Snowden trailer. 
http://boingboing.net/2016/04/28/trailer-for-oliver-stones.html

--

Marco McClean
memo at mcn.org
http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com

-- 
Marco McClean
memo at mcn.org
http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com

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Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 00:31:16 +0000
From: Scott Peterson <scottmartinpeterson at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Kzyxtalk] CAB Programmer Policy
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I just found this little gem:

                    "T Gregory: Previous CAGs failed because the most interested parties were programmers, 

and could not serve on the CAG (on advice from a lawyer in DC). Board is discussing 

CAG requirements, not talking about hearing from the public. I question the authenticity 

of the effort. It's seen as a formality, with everything round-filed.

it's from KZYX meeting minutes here:

http://www.kzyx.org/images/pdf/mtg_minutes/KZYX%20Board%20mtg%20minutes%2012-08.pdf

The 'CAG' here stood for 'Community Advisory Group' .. which I'm assuming is the 'CAB' or 

'Community Advisory Board' we have today .. 

so in summary -- according to a DC lawyer -- programmers shouldn't serve on the CAB .. 

which takes us to Bob Bushansky and Stuart Campbell .. Mr. Bushansky is now a programmer .. 

with a very exciting show titled, 'Politics - a Love Story' .. So is Mr. Campbell .. with a riveting 

show of his own titled, 'Consider This' .. all reported on the KZYX website here:

http://www.kzyx.org/Board/KZYX%20State%20of%20the%20Station%20Report%20January%202016.pdf

so assuming this 'lawyer in DC' knows what they're talking about -- how can two programmers

serve on the Community Advisory Board? .. and if they're not serving on the CAB, then who is?

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:04:43 -0700
From: Doug McKenty <dougmck at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] CAB Programmer Policy
To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
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The CAG was the old vernacular for the current CAB. Hard to keep it all together sometimes...

I don't think Campbell is on the CAB, just Bushansky. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 30, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Scott Peterson <scottmartinpeterson at hotmail.com> wrote:
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 03:30:20 +0000
From: Scott Peterson <scottmartinpeterson at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Kzyxtalk]  Hoi, hoi u embleer hrair! M'saion ule' hraka
    vair!
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Marco's got a useful recollection of where the wheels came off at KZYX .. right around the 1:00 mark:

http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com

it sounds to me like Sean Donovan -- buffaloed -- KZYX directors into thinking they had no authority to 

run KZYX .. thus subjugating themselves to the general manager .. which is where we are today .. 

thanks, Marco! .. 

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The recording of last night's (2016-04-29) 107.7fm KNYO (and 105.1 KMEC) Memo of the Air: Good Night Radio show is available to download and 
listen to via http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com

Scott Peterson called at 9:30 (half an hour into the show) and we talked 
for an hour about the glaring financial chicanery involved in Mendocino 
County's nonprofit corporations in general and the ones that run the 
Coast Hospital and KZYX in specific, who seem particularly prone to roll 
over under the leadership of perpetrators of what some might call 
obfuscatory ethical jiggery-pokery.                         
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