[Kzyxtalk] [MCN-Discussion]- Fwd: Jan. 21, 2014: 3:25 PM

Tim Gregory tgregory at saber.net
Tue Jun 16 11:47:51 PDT 2015


The up tightness came on in stages...I agree it continues to be a club over heads
and over our shows...your fellow expatriates arguably made it even worse...

Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas...
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reat question David!  When I was a teenager in Houston I loved Rice Universities
radio station in large part because after 10pm they would really open it up and
played all kinds of crazy music and comedy!  Definitely making a statement about
free speech rights.  I think especially if KZYX want to generate more younger
listeners, it could learn a lesson from this.

It would be interesting to note that the FCC has never shut down a radio station
over a foul language complaint, even if the incident occurred during the day.

When I started at KZYX I was trained to ignore cuss words and told that the stations
in house rules about them were fairly lax.  I have found it interesting that staff
has a tendency to become "puritanical" only when incidents occur during programs
with hosts that have publicly advocated for membership control over the programming
decision making process.

I have heard half a dozen cuss words on KZYX over the last two years occurring on
programs who's hosts support the status quo with no disciplinary action taken.

This seems to be a pattern.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:32 PM, David Gurney <jugglestone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I guess this means George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, etc. etc. are forever banned from
> KZYX?
>
> Since when did all the listeners around here become uptight Puritans, and whatever
> became of freedom of speech?
>
>
>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Andrea Luna <aluna at mcn.org> wrote:
>> Thanks for refreshing my memory ; Johanna was a great asset, and a grew loss to
>> have her canned.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 15, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Doug McKenty <dougmck at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, but that was during safe harbor time and was not even an FCC infraction.
>> Mary explained to me that she had told Johana to tone down the bad language in
>> her show, then canned her when she played a song with a cuss word though it was
>> after 10pm.
>> >
>> > As it was the only program targeting the young, African American audience, I
>> thought the loss of the show was unfortunate. There was a lot of flack about
>> the decision on Open Lines for weeks afterwards and I believe it was the cause
>> of some of the downturn in membership the station has experienced over the last
>> eight years.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:02 AM, M Kathryn Massey <mkathrynmassey at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not sure, but why some and not all?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Andrea Luna <aluna at mcn.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Wasn't Johanna Shultz also terminated for playing a hip-hop song with a swear
>> word?
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:27 AM, M Kathryn Massey <mkathrynmassey at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi, Beth,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It's a real question and let me be clear that I am not addressing
>> censorship. Ideas, content and opinion matter.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You'll note that Stuart, as President, didn't respond to the kind of
>> profanity, but chose to say  the PD isn't responsible for content she airs.
>> I differ.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One of the key responsibilities the PD has is exactly what DOES make the
>> air, not what is intended.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On April 30 of this year, someone put up a pre-recorded program of W Dan's
>> because he was needed elsewhere. This show airs at 8 p. It contained the F
>> word.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nothing was done about it and I don't know who was the engineer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Included here is an email from a former Programmer who was also a board
>> member. This exchange was included in my filing to the FCC.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Beth, there has to be some threshold as a guide. In these three instances,
>> the P D is responsible. All of these happened before the Safe Harbor time
>> frame.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The bigger issue here is the P D being selective on who was removed and who
>> wasn't.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I also feel that volunteer programmers are not supported as they should be
>> with regular training, regular evaluations on the production of programs and
>> no thought to developing themes, and new content.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hope this helps to clarify a bit. It's larger than three instances of
>> profanity. mkm
>> >>>>
>> >>>> p s I'm sending this note from my cell phone. if the Jan 21 email does not
>> follow, it was in another posting.  Thank you
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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