[Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards

Tue May 27 12:45:38 PDT 2014

"Clean up the list serve or stop asking for modes of expression... overtly
hostile atmosphere propagated by an uncivilized few."

A call for more censorship outside the walls of KZYX's Fort Philo?

...

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM, David <uw at kzyx.org> wrote:

>  Norman.
>
> Nothing is worth a serious discussion while people like bb continue to be
> allowed to participate in listserves and chooses to denigrate those she
> opposes or for whom she has a personal dislike. Today we've moved from
> "pig", "paranoid", "alcoholic" to being called "bigots". I have
> consistently asked for civility and what is returned is anything but civil.
> Clean up the list serve or stop asking for modes of expression. It's
> useless to attempt a discussion in this overtly hostile atmosphere
> propagated by an uncivilized few.
>
> David
>
>  David Steffen
> KZYX Business Development
> (707) 895-2324 office
> (707) 322-9895 cell
> (707) 895-2451 fax
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org [mailto:
> kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org] *On Behalf Of *Norman de Vall
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:03 AM
>
> *To:* kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards
>
> Rather than spending more time on "right or wrong", let's ask
> the question:  How are and to whom are the Members able
> to express their views, opinions and suggestions regarding
> programming?
>
>
>  On May 27, 2014, at 9:44 AM, David wrote:
>
>  Let's review. This started with a misrepresentation of the mission
> statement by Norman. He asserted this: "Interesting to note that
> programming and operations is controlled by the membership." Norman's
> statement was factually incorrect. That is not what the mission statement
> says.
>
> David
>
> PS. Please refrain from suggesting that anyone here has a health problem.
> It's highly inappropriate, and has no place here, as serious conce
>
>  David Steffen
> KZYX Business Development
> (707) 895-2324 office
> (707) 322-9895 cell
> (707) 895-2451 fax
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org [mailto:
> kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org] *On Behalf Of *BC
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 4:43 PM
> *To:* kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards
>
> David, why are you so reactive?  Your job would be affirmed if there was a
> better fit (philosophically & operationally) between the station and
> community.  Job stress would be lowered, business would be attracted to
> support the station, and all could prosper with a new sense of mission.  I
> personally know of several thousand dollars that go elsewhere due to
> perceptions of the station.
> I really  am perplexed with this overreaction.  Does the station need a
> shrink?   ~BC
>
>
> On 5/23/2014 3:40 PM, David wrote:
>
> Philosophy is controlled. Nothing more.
>
>  David Steffen
> KZYX Business Development
> (707) 895-2324 office
> (707) 322-9895 cell
> (707) 895-2451 fax
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org [
> mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org <kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Cindy Swan
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 2:35 PM
> *To:* kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> *Cc:* discussion at lists.mcn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards
>
>  Its programming *and *operational philosophy is controlled by its
> membership, which is open to all.
>
>
> Dear David,
>
> What part of the word "and" don't you understand?
>
> It is grammatically correct to use the word "is" to refer to both,
> due to the presence of the compounding qualifier "and".
>
> If you diagrammed this sentence, it would break down to:
>
> *(1) Its programming is controlled by its membership, *
> *which is open to all.*
>
> *AND*
>
>  *(2) Its operational philosophy is controlled by its membership, *
> *which is open to all.*
>
> Hence the use of the singular form of the verb in this instance.
> Your argument for the plural "are" applies only when compounding two
> plurals.
> Please review "Compounding Sentences" chapter of your fourth-grade grammar
> book.
>
> *If the two were separately controlled by distinctly different entities,*
> *They would not be joined by the word "AND" in this sentence.*
>
> The Mission Statement assigns control
>  of programming
> AND
> operational philosophy
> to its membership
> which is additionally qualified as
> "open to all".
>
> Please also note
> the absence of the words
> "General Manager"
> "Program Coordinator"
>  "Board of Directors"
> or any reference
> to their roles in this regard.
>
> Management and Coordination
> are essential to KZ's successful
> fulfillment of its grant requirements.
> (Grants that were obtained
> on the basis
> of its Mission Statement, BTW.)
> So they do have an obligation here . . .
>
> The membership entrusts the Board
> to hire and make certain staff
> is capable of doing so.
> As Diane pointed out,
> it involves the skill to
> work with, rather than merely exclude
> controversial opinions/issues.
> *Yes, skillful means are required.*
> This is the challenge that faces all
> Community Radio Stations
> in these times, as
> this is the true essence
> of Democracy,
> which we find the newly-landed
> so eager to corrupt
> in favor of Oligarchy.
>
> oligarchy |ˈäliˌgärkē; ˈōli-|noun ( pl. -chies)a small group of people
> having control of a country, organization, or institution : the ruling
> oligarchy of military men around the president.• a state governed by such
> a group : the English aristocratic oligarchy of the 19th century.• government
> by such a group.
>
> .
>
> Sincerest thanks to Norman for bringing this up.
> And revealing management's
> (current) attitude
> toward its own mission statement.
> Who does NOT have "control" over content?
> Well, by law . . .
> Underwriters.
> And, according to MCPB's Mission Statement . . .
> Staff
> and Board.
>
> If the above are working in coordination,
> against development of
> creatively and professionally produced
> (local) programming
> "that responds to the needs of the community"
> a navigational course correction is in order,
> lest the good ship become becalmed.
>
> Yours in creative synergy ~C.
>
>  On May 23, 2014, at 10:46 AM, David wrote:
>
>  Good morning Norman.
>
> The Mission Statement, as posted on our website and cited by you in your
> email, is as follows:
>
> KZYX&Z, 90.7, 91.5 and 88.1, is the community non-commercial radio station
> of Mendocino County, serving several counties in Northern California. Its
> programming *and *operational philosophy is controlled by its membership,
> which is open to all. Through its dedication to balanced, excellent
> programming, Mendocino County Public Broadcasting reflects the rich
> diversity of the county, while promoting a sense of community across a
> large and varied area. The finest in national public radio programs is made
> available, as well as local programs that are creatively and professionally
> produced, responding to the needs of the community.
>
>  If one follows both the words and phrasing, as well as the grammer and
> punctuation, the content of the Mission Statement clearly states that the
> station's ". . .programming *and * operational philosophy is controlled
> by its membership." Note the use of "is" in lieu of "are". It states a
> singular item, i.e. "the . . . philosophy is controlled by its membership."
> Therefore, neither programming nor operations are controlled by the
> membership. Only the philosophy. "Philosophy", as you know, is the theory
> or attitude held by a person or organization that acts as a guiding
> principle for behavior. The membership can guide the programming and
> operational *philosophy* but the membership does not control prtogramming
> or operations.
>
> David
>
> David Steffen
>  KZYX Business Development
> (707) 895-2324 office
> (707) 322-9895 cell
> (707) 895-2451 fax
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org [
> mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org <kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Norman de Vall
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 10:26 AM
> *To:* kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards
>
> David,
> Am I quoting information from a previous
> Mission Statement?  If so, when was it amended?
> Norman
>
>  On May 23, 2014, at 10:13 AM, David wrote:
>
>  Good morning.
>
> Norman is incorrect. The mission statement does NOT state that
> "programming and operations is controlled by the membership."
>
> David
>
>  David Steffen
> KZYX Business Development
> (707) 895-2324 office
> (707) 322-9895 cell
> (707) 895-2451 fax
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org [
> mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org <kzyxtalk-bounces at lists.mcn.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Norman de Vall
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 9:22 AM
> *To:* kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards
>
> Good Morning All…..
>
> This is interesting reading and worthy of review:
>
>  KZYX Mission Statement
>
> KZYX&Z, 90.7, 91.5 and 88.1, is the community non-commercial radio station
> of Mendocino County, serving several counties in Northern California. Its
> programming and operational philosophy is controlled by its membership,
> which is open to all. Through its dedication to balanced, excellent
> programming, Mendocino County Public Broadcasting reflects the rich
> diversity of the county, while promoting a sense of community across a
> large and varied area. The finest in national public radio programs is made
> available, as well as local programs that are creatively and professionally
> produced, responding to the needs of the community.
>
> KZYX&Z pledges to be a responsible and responsive county-wide medium for
> news, information, music, performing arts, entertainment, and local
> features. KZYX&Z sees its programming as a complement to the work of
> Mendocino's commercial media. The station seeks to foster increased
> communication among all groups in the county and makes access available to
> all points of view.
>
> . . . from KZYX website
>
> Interesting to note that programming and operations is controlled by the
> membership.
>  On May 23, 2014, at 8:51 AM, id wrote:
>
>  <KZYX-CAB2011Report.pdf>
> On May 23, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Norman de Vall wrote:
>
> It is on the last page .
>
>
>
> What is the Mission Statement of KZYX and when was
>
> it last reviewed and updated?
>
>
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