[Kzyxtalk] NPR's All Things Considered

Thu Feb 20 21:53:19 PST 2014

I remember after Annie retired that KZYX used the news feed from KMUD to fill the void. I have a lot of respect for KMUD and it is excellently done, but really, it is Humbolt-Centric and not really relevant always to what is happening down here to the south in Mendocino. An excellent news program, but I don't really care that much what is happening in Eureka or Del Norte if you know what I mean. It was just too far out of the area. 

Rick 

----- Original Message -----
To find out about KMUD's prioritizing the news and its budget, talk to Jeanette Todd or Terry Clemenson who runs seminars for the station's contributors. Tel. # 923 2513. Word is that they are interested in establishing a cooperative news arrangement as in prior years. 
What remains to be seen is whether Coate will see the light and not create obstacles to better news coverage. 
Sheila Dawn 

Patricia Kovner <pkovner at yahoo.com> wrote: 

>Is the reason KZYX no longer has a full news hour, because NPR programming has priority and there is not enough $$ for both? I'd like to know how KMUD budgets it's much smaller income to expand its already full news hour, with several reporters, and no NPR. 
>-------------------------------------------- 
>On Wed, 2/19/14, doug mckenty <dougmck at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] NPR's All Things Considered 
> To: "kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org" <kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org> 
> Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 11:22 AM 
> 
> Tim, 
> I thought the total programming fee 
> of 32k included the 22k for individual programs plus 
> membership fees like 8k for the NPR membership. So the 
> total payout for programming was the 32k number. Perhaps 
> you are right and they should be added for a total of 
> 55k. 
> 
> I stopped believing NPR 
> programming after observing their coverage of the run up to 
> the war in Iraq. It has become my feeling that they are 
> just another corporate news source heavily influenced by the 
> corporate/government complex. I know many believe it to be 
> an alternative, but I feel they are one and the same. 
> Their foreign policy is very one sided, from the point of 
> view of the American military establishment, with little to 
> no time for alternative perspectives. The vast majority of 
> their "experts" come from establishment think 
> tanks such as Rand, Brookings, and the CFR, all of wich are 
> funded by corporate or foundation money. NPR is heavily 
> influenced by the left/right paradigm which it then reduces 
> to the two party system they present as functional, with 
> little corruption influencing the game. Alternative, 
> independant, and third party factions are almost totally 
> ignored. 
> 
> NPR does very little 
> investigative journalism of its own, and after years of 
> paying close attention to alternative news sources, I have 
> found that if an anti-government or anti-corporate meme 
> starts to gain traction, NPR is always there to present a 
> very softball view of what are sometimes serious 
> civil/individual rights abuses. 
> 
> I am also skeptical of its 
> attitude that it is completely objective. By giving 
> equal credence to two points of view I often find that 
> NPR's coverage manages to give a measure of authenticity 
> to ideas that, on their own, would be completely 
> ludicrous. 
> 
> The fluff pieces often 
> stuck between NPR's coverage of real news reminds me of 
> the soma pills taken in A Brave New World. After an hour 
> of NPR we are all meant to feel pacified. There is nothing 
> to worry about. The USA is the greatest country in the 
> world. Its military spreads peace and democracy and its 
> people enjoy freedom and abundance. There is nothing to 
> see here, move along. 
> 
> I just don't trust 
> it. 
> Having said that, 
> I have never advocated ditching it at KZYX. I know a lot 
> of people do trust it, and a lot of them are paying members. 
> I would just like to see less of it and more Independant 
> and locally produced journalism and I would like to be able 
> to have this conversation on the air instead of on this list 
> serve. I think discussion critical or complimentary of all 
> news sources should be part of the function of community 
> radio. 
> 
> Doug M. 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, <nsi at mcn.org> wrote: 
> 
> Thank you, Rick. --beth 
> 
> 
> ----- Original 
> Message ----- 
> From: "Mitch 
> Clogg" <mitchc at mcn.org> 
> 
> To:<kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org> 
> Cc: 
> 
> Sent:Tue, 18 Feb 2014 
> 20:38:24 -0800 
> Subject:Re: [Kzyxtalk] 
> NPR's All Things Considered 
> 
> 
> Why are people so 
> reluctant to cop to 
> liking stuff on public radio? NPR, Public Radio 
> International, 
> Canada radio and a slew of others put superb stuff in 
> the air. My 
> main station is JPR. It's out of Ashland and beams 
> here on AM 1300. 
> The signal gets dirty at sundown. I have to drag 
> myself away, 
> every day. 
> 
> 
> Mitch Clogg 
> 
> Mendocino 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/18/2014 8:10 PM, Rick wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> And now for 
> something 
> completely different: 
> 
> 
> 
> The subject of NPR's "All Things 
> Considered" (ATC) on KZYX is 
> an old, old worn discussion around here in 
> Ruralland, but I 
> would like to bring it up for discussion if anyone 
> is interested. 
> Unfortunately, I think Beth is right; there are 
> probably only 
> about 8 of us on this list and half of them are 
> just just 
> station lurkers or trolls, but I feel strongly 
> about this 
> subject 
> 
> 
> I happen to like ATC. 
> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, not a popular stance, 
> but there 
> you have it. I like the international coverage 
> and some of 
> the science stories I find really interesting 
> and 
> entertaining. Can ATC be lame? You bet it can. 
> Sometimes I 
> just have to cringe at the fluff stories and 
> human interest 
> filler, but I am willing to put up with the duds 
> to get the 
> occasional good story and their good stories can 
> be very, 
> very good. 
> 
> 
> The argument 
> against ATC is not 
> so much how lame it can be, but how much it 
> costs the 
> station. I believe the bill is about 60k a year, 
> but I could 
> be wrong. Maybe someone can give an accurate 
> figure. Anyway, 
> the new slot at 6 pm with PRI's "The 
> World" I think is quite 
> good and it complements ATC perfectly by going 
> into some of 
> the international stories in a deeper way. The 
> PRI show must 
> be much, much cheaper and even might be free. I 
> don't know. 
> Anyway, I think it is really good. My 
> only criticism of 
> The World is that it is heavily weighted towards 
> interviews 
> and talking heads rather than on the ground 
> stories. 
> 
> 
> Two reasons for not 
> getting rid of ATC to me would be: The 
> international 
> reportage, but perhaps more importantly, many of 
> the donors 
> to the station contribute because of ATC. Cut 
> ATC and lose a 
> lot of listeners as well as a lot of station 
> revenue. I 
> don't want to see ATC go, but can we afford 
> to keep it and 
> if we dumped it, would the loss in revenue from 
> loyal donors 
> negate the savings? 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick 
> Little River 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Kzyxtalk mailing list 
> Kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org 
> http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk 
> 
> 
>_______________________________________________ 
>Kzyxtalk mailing list 
>Kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org 
>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk 
_______________________________________________ 
Kzyxtalk mailing list 
Kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org 
http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.mcn.org/pipermail/kzyxtalk/attachments/20140221/cfc73815/attachment-0001.html 