<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I remember after Annie retired that KZYX used the news feed from KMUD to fill the void. I have a lot of respect for KMUD and it is excellently done, but really, it is Humbolt-Centric and not really relevant always to what is happening down here to the south in Mendocino. An excellent news program, but I don't really care that much what is happening in Eureka or Del Norte if you know what I mean. It was just too far out of the area.<div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><hr id="zwchr">To find out about KMUD's prioritizing the news and its budget, talk to Jeanette Todd or Terry Clemenson who runs seminars for the station's contributors. Tel. # 923 2513. Word is that they are interested in establishing a cooperative news arrangement as in prior years.<br> What remains to be seen is whether Coate will see the light and not create obstacles to better news coverage.<br> Sheila Dawn<br><br>Patricia Kovner <pkovner@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><br>>Is the reason KZYX no longer has a full news hour, because NPR programming has priority and there is not enough $$ for both? I'd like to know how KMUD budgets it's much smaller income to expand its already full news hour, with several reporters, and no NPR.<br>>--------------------------------------------<br>>On Wed, 2/19/14, doug mckenty <dougmck@gmail.com> wrote:<br>><br>> Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] NPR's All Things Considered<br>> To: "kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" <kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org><br>> Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 11:22 AM<br>> <br>> Tim,<br>> I thought the total programming fee<br>> of 32k included the 22k for individual programs plus<br>> membership fees like 8k for the NPR membership. So the<br>> total payout for programming was the 32k number. Perhaps<br>> you are right and they should be added for a total of<br>> 55k.<br>> <br>> I stopped believing NPR<br>> programming after observing their coverage of the run up to<br>> the war in Iraq. It has become my feeling that they are<br>> just another corporate news source heavily influenced by the<br>> corporate/government complex. I know many believe it to be<br>> an alternative, but I feel they are one and the same.<br>> Their foreign policy is very one sided, from the point of<br>> view of the American military establishment, with little to<br>> no time for alternative perspectives. The vast majority of<br>> their "experts" come from establishment think<br>> tanks such as Rand, Brookings, and the CFR, all of wich are<br>> funded by corporate or foundation money. NPR is heavily<br>> influenced by the left/right paradigm which it then reduces<br>> to the two party system they present as functional, with<br>> little corruption influencing the game. Alternative,<br>> independant, and third party factions are almost totally<br>> ignored. <br>> <br>> NPR does very little<br>> investigative journalism of its own, and after years of<br>> paying close attention to alternative news sources, I have<br>> found that if an anti-government or anti-corporate meme<br>> starts to gain traction, NPR is always there to present a<br>> very softball view of what are sometimes serious<br>> civil/individual rights abuses. <br>> <br>> I am also skeptical of its<br>> attitude that it is completely objective. By giving<br>> equal credence to two points of view I often find that<br>> NPR's coverage manages to give a measure of authenticity<br>> to ideas that, on their own, would be completely<br>> ludicrous.<br>> <br>> The fluff pieces often<br>> stuck between NPR's coverage of real news reminds me of<br>> the soma pills taken in A Brave New World. After an hour<br>> of NPR we are all meant to feel pacified. There is nothing<br>> to worry about. The USA is the greatest country in the<br>> world. Its military spreads peace and democracy and its<br>> people enjoy freedom and abundance. There is nothing to<br>> see here, move along.<br>> <br>> I just don't trust<br>> it.<br>> Having said that,<br>> I have never advocated ditching it at KZYX. I know a lot<br>> of people do trust it, and a lot of them are paying members.<br>> I would just like to see less of it and more Independant<br>> and locally produced journalism and I would like to be able<br>> to have this conversation on the air instead of on this list<br>> serve. I think discussion critical or complimentary of all<br>> news sources should be part of the function of community<br>> radio.<br>> <br>> Doug M.<br>> <br>> <br>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, <nsi@mcn.org> wrote:<br>> <br>> Thank you, Rick. --beth <br>> <br>> <br>> ----- Original<br>> Message -----<br>> From: "Mitch<br>> Clogg" <mitchc@mcn.org><br>> <br>> To:<kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org><br>> Cc:<br>> <br>> Sent:Tue, 18 Feb 2014<br>> 20:38:24 -0800<br>> Subject:Re: [Kzyxtalk]<br>> NPR's All Things Considered<br>> <br>> <br>> Why are people so<br>> reluctant to cop to<br>> liking stuff on public radio? NPR, Public Radio<br>> International,<br>> Canada radio and a slew of others put superb stuff in<br>> the air. My<br>> main station is JPR. It's out of Ashland and beams<br>> here on AM 1300.<br>> The signal gets dirty at sundown. I have to drag<br>> myself away,<br>> every day.<br>> <br>> <br>> Mitch Clogg<br>> <br>> Mendocino<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 2/18/2014 8:10 PM, Rick wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> And now for<br>> something<br>> completely different:<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The subject of NPR's "All Things<br>> Considered" (ATC) on KZYX is<br>> an old, old worn discussion around here in<br>> Ruralland, but I<br>> would like to bring it up for discussion if anyone<br>> is interested.<br>> Unfortunately, I think Beth is right; there are<br>> probably only<br>> about 8 of us on this list and half of them are<br>> just just<br>> station lurkers or trolls, but I feel strongly<br>> about this<br>> subject<br>> <br>> <br>> I happen to like ATC.<br>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, not a popular stance,<br>> but there<br>> you have it. I like the international coverage<br>> and some of<br>> the science stories I find really interesting<br>> and<br>> entertaining. Can ATC be lame? You bet it can.<br>> Sometimes I<br>> just have to cringe at the fluff stories and<br>> human interest<br>> filler, but I am willing to put up with the duds<br>> to get the<br>> occasional good story and their good stories can<br>> be very,<br>> very good. <br>> <br>> <br>> The argument<br>> against ATC is not<br>> so much how lame it can be, but how much it<br>> costs the<br>> station. I believe the bill is about 60k a year,<br>> but I could<br>> be wrong. Maybe someone can give an accurate<br>> figure. Anyway,<br>> the new slot at 6 pm with PRI's "The<br>> World" I think is quite<br>> good and it complements ATC perfectly by going<br>> into some of<br>> the international stories in a deeper way. The<br>> PRI show must<br>> be much, much cheaper and even might be free. I<br>> don't know.<br>> Anyway, I think it is really good. My<br>> only criticism of<br>> The World is that it is heavily weighted towards<br>> interviews<br>> and talking heads rather than on the ground<br>> stories. <br>> <br>> <br>> Two reasons for not<br>> getting rid of ATC to me would be: The<br>> international<br>> reportage, but perhaps more importantly, many of<br>> the donors<br>> to the station contribute because of ATC. Cut<br>> ATC and lose a<br>> lot of listeners as well as a lot of station<br>> revenue. I<br>> don't want to see ATC go, but can we afford<br>> to keep it and<br>> if we dumped it, would the loss in revenue from<br>> loyal donors<br>> negate the savings?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Rick<br>> Little River<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>> Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>> http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br>> <br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></div></div></body></html>