<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Dear Richard (and all other OMers)</div>I don't agree with Howard because I think we're all on the same mailing lists. And 99% of the time I prefer not to burden people with all the stuff I get. I cannot count the times I have gotten a forward from someone (including you) and right above or below it is an email from that very same org.<div><br></div><div>If you want, we could put it to a vote of either all the listserve members or just the active ones. I am so inundated by stuff that I only want petitions or proposals being worked on by our group.</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#e32400">For your edification here are 2 that greeted me this AM when I woke up:</font></div><div><b style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; ">Brad Johnson, Forecast the Facts <<a href="mailto:info@forecastthefacts.org">info@forecastthefacts.org</a>></b></div><div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px; text-indent: 4px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">To: Mark Safron <<a href="mailto:marksafron@att.net">marksafron@att.net</a>></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px; text-indent: 4px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">Reply-To: <a href="mailto:info@forecastthefacts.org">info@forecastthefacts.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 19px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">Join our exciting Sandy anniversary forum tonight!</div></div><div>&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&</div><div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; "><b>Jordan Krueger, CREDO Action <<a href="mailto:act@credoaction.com">act@credoaction.com</a>></b></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px; text-indent: 4px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">To: Mark Safron <<a href="mailto:marksafron@att.net">marksafron@att.net</a>></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px; text-indent: 4px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">Reply-To: Jordan Krueger, CREDO Action <<a href="mailto:act@credoaction.com">act@credoaction.com</a>></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 19px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">Update: Textbook publishers standing up to Texas</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 19px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; "><div style="font-family: Futura; font-size: medium; "><font color="#e32400">And it's only 9AM on a Sunday!</font></div><div style="font-family: Futura; font-size: medium; "></div></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 19px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 19px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 19px; font-size: 16px; font-family: Helvetica; ">On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Richard Karch <<a href="mailto:rkarch@mcn.org">rkarch@mcn.org</a>> wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Don't you think others are sending things from their own incoming<div>mail? Just sharing things they deem important. </div><div><br></div><div>How can we be judges of what is and what isn't appropriate? </div><div><br></div><div> I think people should be selective and forward the most important ones </div><div>to OM and send the others to their own private list(s) to those who would benefit by receiving them.</div><div>I read Howard's reply to you and I agree with him about the Palestinian petition. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ricardo</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><div><div>On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Mark Safron wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">All the stuff I sent came from my own email account. What I'm saying by the example of forwarding all this is where do you draw the line? I can forward 10 - 15 a day, all worthy causes but is that what we want on our listserve? Palestinians? Polar bears? Pesticides? And that's just the P's. As for the Senior Center, I'm not feeling that magnanimous towards them at the moment. Gin is more forgiving than I am.<div><br><div><div>On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Richard Karch <<a href="mailto:rkarch@mcn.org">rkarch@mcn.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I expect most people get things from Bernie... I do, and fill out petitions.<div> Might be redundant, but not necessarily 'wrong' to share. I think we tend</div><div>to share things that are important to us...<br><div>I think SSI is an important issue to most of our OM members. </div><div>Did someone post it, or is this an example of what we should or should not post?</div><div><br></div><div>Ricardo</div><div>Hey, missed you at the Senior Dinner! Saw Gin. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 26, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Mark Safron wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://220/"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Senator Bernie Sanders, The Other 98%" <<a href="mailto:info@other98.com">info@other98.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>A Deal to Slash Social Security</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">October 26, 2013 1:05:07 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:marksafron@att.net">marksafron@att.net</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:info@other98.com">info@other98.com</a><br></span></div><br><div style="font-family: Futura; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><i><b>We're very proud to be joining with Senator Bernie Sanders in demanding no so-called "Grand Bargain" that would needlessly cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits.</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Senator Sanders will soon serve on the budget conference committee that will set the terms for the next federal budget - and he's using that position to make it clear that he and the vast majority of Americans refuse to accept a grand betrayal cutting our earned benefits.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i><b><a href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=jCwhisxsPJ7%2B7wkkr4bjiSNINi8EYacT"><i>Click here to join Senator Sanders, us and a diverse coalition of groups working to make sure we strengthen Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits - not cut them. </i></a></b><i>- Sincerely, John Sellers, The Other 98%</i></p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">--</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Dear Mark,</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">They’re at it again.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Billionaires like the Koch Brothers, Pete Peterson, Stanley Druckenmiller and others are leading the charge to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">If they succeed, millions of senior citizens, working families, disabled veterans and children will suffer. We must not allow that to happen.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Today, the middle class is disappearing, real unemployment is extremely high, poverty is increasing and working families throughout the country are struggling to keep their heads above water economically. Meanwhile, the gap between the very rich and everyone else is growing wider and wider and the wealthiest people and the largest corporations are doing phenomenally well.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">We must not balance the budget on the backs of working families, the elderly, the children, the sick and the poor.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b>As Vermont’s senator, I have the honor of serving on the Budget Conference Committee which will be negotiating a new federal budget over the next few months -- and where I am fearful that a deal could be struck to slash Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.</b></p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b><u><a href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=Wlm4p7GwWnYjb9wXIL%2FzxyNINi8EYacT">As the founder of the Defending Social Security Caucus, please stand with me, our friends at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The Other 98%</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and our coalition partners in demanding; “No grand bargain in exchange for cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.”</a></u></b></p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Let’s be clear. Despite right-wing rhetoric:</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b>Social Security is not going broke.</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>According to the Social Security Administration, Social Security has a surplus today of $2.8 trillion and can pay out every benefit owed to every eligible person for the next 20 years.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b>Social Security has not contributed to the deficit.</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Social Security is funded independently by FICA taxes which are paid by workers and their employers.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b>The so-called chained-CPI, which recalculates how COLA’s are formulated, is not a “modest tweak.”</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>If the chained CPI went into effect today, a senior aged 65 would receive $658 a year less in Social Security benefits when he/she is 75, and $1,100 a year less at age 85. Further, the average disabled veteran would lose tens of thousands of dollars in benefits over his/her lifetime.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b><u><a href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=MpsdUjyw59C9tH%2FEFcfLiCNINi8EYacT" target="_blank">Please stand with me today and demand that Congress and the President oppose any grand bargain which cuts Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.</a></u></b></p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">When one out of four U.S. corporations pay nothing in federal income taxes; when Bush’s tax breaks for the rich remain in place for many wealthy Americans; when the U.S. spends almost as much as the rest of the world combined on defense, there are much fairer and economically sound ways to address the budget than cutting programs desperately needed by the most vulnerable people in our country.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><b><u><a href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=Ik0apyWda%2B4BOJ1PLAlE9iNINi8EYacT" target="_blank">Please stand with me and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>The Other 98%</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in protecting the future of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. </a></u></b></p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Let’s go forward together. Thanks for your continued support.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Sincerely,</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; "><img src="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1519/images/Bernie%20Sanders%20signature.jpg" width="248" height="57" alt=""></p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders</p><div style="margin: 1em 0px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">The Other 98% is making democracy work for the rest of us.</p><p style="margin: 1em 0px; ">Our website is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://other98.com/">http://other98.com/</a>. This email was sent to <a href="mailto:marksafron@att.net">marksafron@att.net</a>. You can<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=BArBVbslrQtsLXqTfHFgniNINi8EYacT">unsubscribe</a>from our list at any time.</p><img width="1" height="1" src="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/TrackImage?key=1640845542"><diaemailid='1640845542' thread="375565"></diaemailid='1640845542'></div></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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