[Occupymendocino] If Warren won't run, we need Bernie.

[ELLEN ROSSER]

Dear Ruby,
     I like Sanders very much for his domestic politics, but I am very
involved in peace in the Middle East, and after learning from a WILPF
member that he had arrested a WILPF member for pushing him on Palestine and
Gaza since he has accepted the mass media accounts of what happened there
instead of finding out the truth (and he does vote the AIPAC line, which is
the Netanyahu line),  that does not bode well for his being an "honest
broker" between Israel and Palestine.    We need someone who is willing to
find out and  speak the truth about Israel's illegal (under international
law) and brutal occupation of Palestine.
     I'm still looking for the email that I paraphrased, and I've asked
other WILPF members for help in finding it.  I agree, the video does not
give proof.
               Peace and blessings,   Ellen

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Ruby Gold <goldencenter at mcn.org> wrote:

> Dear MS Rosser
>
> I repeat, your accusations against Bernie Sanders are very serious. But
> where's the proof.
> I tried to see if what you are claiming is true - but alas I cannot.
>
> 1 - I watched the video and heard only a rude, aggressive man ask the
> question, Are you going to arrest me?" Sanders' answer was, "No I do not
> want to arrest anyone." And he did not in fact arrest anyone. There is no
> evidence that BS ever arrested anyone.
>
> How about naming your friends and having them offer some proof if there is
> any.
>
> 2 - I watched the video and read the little blurb at the bottom. How
> distorting. BS was frustrated and angry wanting to answer the question that
> was asked of him and the same rude aggressive people were screaming and
> refusing to let him finish his answer.
>
> 3 - This video does not give me any insight into Sanders - rather what
> ever insight I do have comes from his decades and decades of service to
> people and his refusing to be bought out by corporate/Wall Street and his
> voting right along with and true his convictions.
>
> 4 - Your post and the video do, however, give me insight into you.
>
> 5 - If you don't like the man and his progressive agenda - don't vote for
> him - but please do not use the list serve to lob unsubstantiated
> accusations against someone - anyone. This is the last thing we need.
>
> ruby
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:09 PM, ELLEN ROSSER wrote:
>
>  Dear Occupy,
>>      Here is the link to a Town Hall Meeting where one man asks, "Are you
>> going to arrest me?"    Does that question imply that the WILPF member was
>> arrested at a previous meeting?   The description of the event by a WILPF
>> member indicated that the WILPF member and husband were arrested.  But I
>> can't find that email.   This Youtube video gives some insight into
>> Sanders, however.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM&feature=youtu.be
>>             Peace and blessings,   Ellen
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Ruby Gold <goldencenter at mcn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You are making a very serious accusation - completely contradicting
>>> every single thing that Mr. Sanders has said AND done for decades.
>>>
>>>  Please provide some sort of proof or research or something - anything -
>>> to support your accusations.
>>>
>>>  ruby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:47 PM, ELLEN ROSSER wrote:
>>>
>>>  Dear Occupy,
>>>>       I recently received information from a WILPF member (Women's
>>>> International League for Peace and Freedom, the oldest women's peace
>>>> organization in the US, which created the course on Corporations and
>>>> Democracy that many of you know)  She and her husband, who live in Vermont,
>>>> went a Sanders' Town Hall meeting in Cabot.   She asked a question about
>>>> Israel and Palestine, and Sanders over-rode her and tried to redirect to
>>>> talk about ISIS.   When her husband spoke and reiterated the question,
>>>> Sanders had them arrested.   The papers in Cabot  dealt with the issue at
>>>> some length.
>>>>        I don''t think we need a president who arrests people who try to
>>>> exercise their freedom of speech, do we?  I would never vote for him.
>>>>              Peace and blessings,   Ellen Rosser (a WILPF member)
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Mark Safron <marksafron at att.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffgQhX0kSA
>>>>>
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