<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">John,<div>Obviously someone "clicked" the wrong button and exposed</div><div>most or all of the "insider" e-addresses. For this Ed Snowdon</div><div>effort we should express thanks. Slowly the walls come down.</div><div>Are you a member of the Ukiah Co-op? And excellent example</div><div>of how a membership organization can be run.</div><div>The content of the Tim missive is probably beyond most every</div><div>one. I'm just happy to have the e-address list which has been</div><div>sequestered for how long?</div><div>Norman</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:34 PM, <a href="mailto:sako4@comcast.net">sako4@comcast.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>What does this all mean, Norman? Very confusing.<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Norman de Vall" <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org">ndevall@mcn.org</a>><br><b>To: </b>"kzyxtalk" <<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:06:11 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....<br><div><br></div>fyi<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:;"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Tim Gregory" <<a href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net" target="_blank">tgregory@saber.net</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:;"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:;"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">March 1, 2016 2:56:53 PM PST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:;"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:;"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br></span></div><br><div>no, you were obviously a mistake to be included, and you proved it right away.<br>---<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>At last, we're included in the conversation:<br><div><br></div>Begin forwarded message:<br><div><br></div><blockquote>From: "Jerry Fraley" <<a href="mailto:operations@kzyx.org" target="_blank">operations@kzyx.org</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote>Subject: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....<br></blockquote><blockquote>Date: February 29, 2016 9:06:19 PM PST<br></blockquote><blockquote>To: "'Angela DeWitt'" <<a href="mailto:ms.adewitt@gmail.com" target="_blank">ms.adewitt@gmail.com</a>>, "'General Manager'" <<a href="mailto:gm@kzyx.org" target="_blank">gm@kzyx.org</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:membership@kzyx.org" target="_blank">membership@kzyx.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:uw@kzyx.org" target="_blank">uw@kzyx.org</a>>, "'Barbara Lamb'" <<a href="mailto:blamb@pacific.net" target="_blank">blamb@pacific.net</a>>, "'Bob<br></blockquote><blockquote>Vaughan'" <<a href="mailto:est.prophet@yahoo.com" target="_blank">est.prophet@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Cheri Christianson'" <<a href="mailto:chrisarn@mcn.org" target="_blank">chrisarn@mcn.org</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote>"'Chris Skyhawk'" <<a href="mailto:hawkrad@mcn.org" target="_blank">hawkrad@mcn.org</a>>, "'Colleen Bassett'" <<a href="mailto:colleenb@pacific.net" target="_blank">colleenb@pacific.net</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote>"'Dave Barre'" <<a href="mailto:dabarre@wildblue.net" target="_blank">dabarre@wildblue.net</a>>, "'Diane Hering'" <<a href="mailto:dhering@pacific.net" target="_blank">dhering@pacific.net</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote>"'Doug Livingston'" <<a href="mailto:livingstonconsulting@hughes.net" target="_blank">livingstonconsulting@hughes.net</a>>, "'Doug Mosel'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:dmosel@wildblue.net" target="_blank">dmosel@wildblue.net</a>>, "'Eric Labowitz'" <<a href="mailto:lab@pacific.net" target="_blank">lab@pacific.net</a>>, "'Floriane Weyrich'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:fweyrich@msn.com" target="_blank">fweyrich@msn.com</a>>, "'Fred Wooley'" <<a href="mailto:freddybudd@starband.net" target="_blank">freddybudd@starband.net</a>>, "'Gordon Black'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:gblack@mcn.org" target="_blank">gblack@mcn.org</a>>, "'Greg Krouse'" <<a href="mailto:earthdance@saber.net" target="_blank">earthdance@saber.net</a>>, "'Jamie Roberts'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:jamier@mcn.org" target="_blank">jamier@mcn.org</a>>, "'Jeffrey Blankfort'" <<a href="mailto:jblankfort@earthlink.net" target="_blank">jblankfort@earthlink.net</a>>, "'Jeremy<br></blockquote><blockquote>Dodds'" <<a href="mailto:Skaselecter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Skaselecter@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Jim Heid'" <<a href="mailto:Jim@jimheid.com" target="_blank">Jim@jimheid.com</a>>, "'Jimmy Humble'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:jimmy@pacific.net" target="_blank">jimmy@pacific.net</a>>, "'Johanna Cummings'" <<a href="mailto:JC@wildoak.org" target="_blank">JC@wildoak.org</a>>, "'Katharine Cole'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:katharine@katharinecole.com" target="_blank">katharine@katharinecole.com</a>>, "'Linda MacElwee'" <<a href="mailto:lsmacelwee@hotmail.com" target="_blank">lsmacelwee@hotmail.com</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote>"'Lorena Calvo-Evans'" <<a href="mailto:lorejim8@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lorejim8@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Marcia Lotter'" <<a href="mailto:mlotter@mcn.org" target="_blank">mlotter@mcn.org</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote>"'Marvin Trotter'" <<a href="mailto:trotterm@co.mendocino.ca.us" target="_blank">trotterm@co.mendocino.ca.us</a>>, "'Michael Arago'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:mmbarago@mcn.org" target="_blank">mmbarago@mcn.org</a>>, "'Norman de Vall'" <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" target="_blank">ndevall@mcn.org</a>>, "'Patrick Gomes'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:gomes@mcn.org" target="_blank">gomes@mcn.org</a>>, "'Pippa Thomas'" <<a href="mailto:pipsteve@pacific.net" target="_blank">pipsteve@pacific.net</a>>, "'Richard Herr'"<br></blockquote><blockquote><<a href="mailto:eandrherr@dishmail.net" target="_blank">eandrherr@dishmail.net</a>>, "'Rick Blaufeld'" <<a href="mailto:rick@mendocinoguitars.com" target="_blank">rick@mendocinoguitars.com</a>>, "'Ron<br></blockquote><blockquote>Reed'" <<a href="mailto:mrdjreed@comcast.net" target="_blank">mrdjreed@comcast.net</a>>, "'Steve Garner'" <<a href="mailto:Sharonart_95432@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Sharonart_95432@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Tim<br></blockquote><blockquote>Bray'" <<a href="mailto:tbray@wildblue.net" target="_blank">tbray@wildblue.net</a>>, "'Verge Belanger'" <<a href="mailto:contactverge@yahoo.com" target="_blank">contactverge@yahoo.com</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>I have a proposal in mind in regard to the Internet streaming side of the KZYX<br></blockquote><blockquote>broadcasts… Bear with me here:<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>We currently create 3 streams in real-time:<br></blockquote><blockquote> 96 Kbps, mono encoded as stereo with high sample rate (44.1Khz)<br></blockquote><blockquote> 32 Kbps, mono encoded as ????? same sample rate [This is a target for<br></blockquote><blockquote>“dialup” users,<br></blockquote><blockquote> and<br></blockquote><blockquote>like,<br></blockquote><blockquote>when<br></blockquote><blockquote>did<br></blockquote><blockquote>I<br></blockquote><blockquote>ever<br></blockquote><blockquote>get<br></blockquote><blockquote>32K<br></blockquote><blockquote> on<br></blockquote><blockquote>a<br></blockquote><blockquote>dialup,<br></blockquote><blockquote>like,<br></blockquote><blockquote>um,<br></blockquote><blockquote>never]<br></blockquote><blockquote> 96 Kbps, mono encoded as ???? (checking) for a Shoutcast server<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>Now I draw upon the collective memory about the Shoutcast connection—is it used<br></blockquote><blockquote>for anything real??? The main stream is used to feed the jukebox (and more on<br></blockquote><blockquote>that later, soon….) Shoutcast is a stream frontend, an “Internet Radio” index of<br></blockquote><blockquote>sorts, basically micro-streamer marketing, however, this organization is a radio<br></blockquote><blockquote>station, we absolutely /are/ a marketing organization, we don’t need the shoutcast<br></blockquote><blockquote>exposure, it draws consumers away from our main product and the outlets for<br></blockquote><blockquote>consuming them.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>And in my opinion, that outlet should be of high quality.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>The proposal: I want to totally eliminate the Shoutcast stream and dedicate that<br></blockquote><blockquote>bandwidth to create a quality full-stereo stream.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly<br></blockquote><blockquote>The Ugly—the small mixer that is used to control the levels on the streamer has<br></blockquote><blockquote>reached the end of it’s life. The thing operates so hot that over time the solder<br></blockquote><blockquote>connections inside are suffering, the pan pot unseats and leaves the right channel<br></blockquote><blockquote>at 0db, it’s annoying to have to check it so much.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>The Bad -- when I was untangling cables in the rack last night, I discovered the<br></blockquote><blockquote>source audio for the rack is being drawn from an output meant for an FM<br></blockquote><blockquote>transmitter—it’s not an audio output at all (it just so happens that the low end<br></blockquote><blockquote>of the IF /is/ the MONO part of the signal, but it’s a signal meant to be<br></blockquote><blockquote>connected to an audio input, so I’m just shaking my head on this one.)<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>The Good – the AudioIP system blade in the rack has many extra outputs (only one<br></blockquote><blockquote>really used, that’s the transmitter digital feed), and I want to create an analog<br></blockquote><blockquote>mirror output and feed that to a new little mixer, ultimately creating a stereo<br></blockquote><blockquote>input to the streamer device.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>[Oh, I see Johanna is already on top of the sound of The Bad and The Ugly in a<br></blockquote><blockquote>different email. Awesome! So, memories, feedback, help me out here folks, I<br></blockquote><blockquote>want to move forward unless the current configuration is critical to some world<br></blockquote><blockquote>domination plan… J<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>Thanks all for tolerating my soapboxing!<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>Jerry Fraley<br></blockquote><blockquote>Interim Operations Director<br></blockquote><blockquote>KZYX-FM & KZYZ-FM<br></blockquote><blockquote>707-895-2324<br></blockquote><blockquote><a href="mailto:jerry_fraley@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jerry_fraley@yahoo.com</a><br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></div></blockquote></div><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></div><div><br></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>