<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5077">I request that anyone discussing the MCPB/KZYX campaign focus on policies and procedures, actions and their consequences, rather than using personal insults and/or demeaning someone's character. Specifically, I do not want anyone to make a "third-party hit" on my behalf by insulting/demeaning someone. As soon as you do that, it reduces your
credibility concerning any valid point you are trying to make. If someone does something that you think is bad for the organization, it will be more helpful if you describe the wrongful act and its detrimental effect. It's much more effective, and you will reduce the vitriol that is poisoning the discussion of real issues.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5197" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5195" dir="ltr">Thanks,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5193" dir="ltr">Denny<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5192" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5082">PS - A good article on nonviolent communication, aka collaborative communication, is at</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5049"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5047"><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5055" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication">Nonviolent Communication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a><br></div><div style="width:450px; font-family: 'Georgia', 'Times', 'Times New Roman', 'serif';margin-top:5px; margin-bottom: 5px; background-color: #ffffff;" id="enhancrCard_0" class="link-enhancr-attachment link-enhancr-element" contenteditable="false"><table id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423251861445_5087" class="link-enhancr-element" style="width:450px; 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Re: Centrist takeover of KZYX, c. 2010 (Tim Gregory)<br> 2. Ooops... (ann brown)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 20:26:15 -0800<br>From: "Tim Gregory" <<a ymailto="mailto:tgregory@saber.net" href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net">tgregory@saber.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Centrist takeover of KZYX, c. 2010<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:e49b10a3be80af69c2574ba43d7b8293.squirrel@webmail.saber.net" href="mailto:e49b10a3be80af69c2574ba43d7b8293.squirrel@webmail.saber.net">e49b10a3be80af69c2574ba43d7b8293.squirrel@webmail.saber.net</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1<br><br>life is simple, for simple people.<br>---<br><br><br>The membership controls nothing, Doug. You know that. I know that. Everybody know<br>that.<br><br>One person -- and one person only -- controls programing. She has total control over<br>programming, and, indeed, she has control over most of KZYX's operations. She has<br>been the one constant during the station's 25-year history, even as a multitude of<br>General Managers have come and gone.<br><br>That person is Mary Aigner.<br>----- Original Message -----<br><br>From: "Doug McKenty" <<a ymailto="mailto:dougmck@gmail.com" href="mailto:dougmck@gmail.com">dougmck@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "kzyxtalk" <<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 4:37:17 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Centrist takeover of KZYX, c. 2010<br><br>I brought up the mission in my three minute statement at the meeting Monday. It is<br>at the center of my campaign for the board. I felt like the current board members<br>were receptive to what I said.<br><br>Stuart brought up that board members are responsible for following the Mission. In<br>my talk I mentioned that I thought a lot of frustration is felt by those members who<br>do not feel the membership "controls the stations programming and operational<br>philosophy." I also mentioned that even members with a minority view should have a<br>venue where they can say what they feel and know they have been heard. I believe a<br>lack of this is the root of much of the frustration surrounding the station among<br>many in our community and would like to see more effort to foster better<br>communication about station policy.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Norman de Vall <<a ymailto="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org">ndevall@mcn.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> If you want to maintain the status quo<br>> keep the decision makers away from<br>> asking "How can we better meet the<br>> challenges of our Mission Statement?"<br>><br>><br>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Doug McKenty wrote:<br>>><br>>> One of the board members, I think it was Jane, mentioned having meetings more<br>>> often on Monday night. O thought it was a good sign.<br>>><br>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>>><br>>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 9:06 AM, King Collins <<a ymailto="mailto:king@greenmac.com" href="mailto:king@greenmac.com">king@greenmac.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> John Sakowicz said:<br>>>><br>>>>> We used to meet monthly, but when there was a Board change in late-Spring 2013,<br>>>>> the last two things that the old Board did was to give Coate a raise and to cut<br>>>>> the meeting schedule. David Hopmann, the attorney from San Francisco who is<br>>>>> Coate's friend, was the outgoing Board president at that time.<br>>>><br>>>> Yes, you have that right about David Hopmann, and he is still around, comes to<br>>>> the board meetings. Was at the last one and the one before that. He surely the<br>>>> main player in managment's current legal team. He was the president of the board<br>>>> when the Centrist takeover was executed 2010 or so? And I think he was around<br>>>> before that. During his time as president of the board, he saw to the complete<br>>>> eradication of the Grady committee system with its built in member<br>>>> participation. Ending the committee system was part of estabishing CEO model, in<br>>>> which the board gives up its oversight responsibility and becomes a tool of<br>>>> management.<br>>>><br>>>> Who actually devised the takeover plan? Hopmann was the lawyer who gave the it<br>>>> credibility. I think it was Tony Miksak (who personally solicited Coate) and<br>>>> Coate, with the happy cooperation of Mary Aigner.<br>>>><br>>>> The argument of the centrists, then as now, is that member control is<br>>>> ridiculous, and besides nobody is interested in democracy and how radio is<br>>>> produced. Listeners are only interested in what they hear.<br>>>><br>>>> However some of us have the stubborn belief that how our radio is produced has a<br>>>> lot to do with its quality. --king<br>>>><br>>>> * * * *<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:44 AM, <a ymailto="mailto:sako4@comcast.net" href="mailto:sako4@comcast.net">sako4@comcast.net</a> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> Hi Norman,<br>>>>><br>>>>> We used to meet monthly, but when there was a Board change in late-Spring 2013,<br>>>>> the last two things that the old Board did was to give Coate a raise and to cut<br>>>>> the meeting schedule. David Hopmann, the attorney from San Francisco who is<br>>>>> Coate's friend, was the outgoing Board president at that time.<br>>>>><br>>>>> John<br>>>>><br>>>>> From: "Norman de Vall" <<a ymailto="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org">ndevall@mcn.org</a>><br>>>>> To: "kzyxtalk" <<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>><br>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:21:18 PM<br>>>>> Subject: [Kzyxtalk] kzyx<br>>>>><br>>>>> John,<br>>>>> With all the challenges KZYX is facing<br>>>>> can you tell me why the Board meets<br>>>>> only every three months?<br>>>>> Norman<br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>>>>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>>>>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>>>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:32:02 -0800<br>From: ann brown <<a ymailto="mailto:divinesight@icloud.com" href="mailto:divinesight@icloud.com">divinesight@icloud.com</a>><br>Subject: [Kzyxtalk] Ooops...<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:CA571B73-BB12-4E67-922C-AB5C4166DDA0@icloud.com" href="mailto:CA571B73-BB12-4E67-922C-AB5C4166DDA0@icloud.com">CA571B73-BB12-4E67-922C-AB5C4166DDA0@icloud.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>Sorry folks,<br><br>Didn?t realize I was sending messages to Norman on the list serve. Please forgive my mistake.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Ann<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br><br>End of Kzyxtalk Digest, Vol 13, Issue 17<br>****************************************<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>