<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial">"Clean up the list serve or stop asking for modes of expression...</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial"> overtly hostile atmosphere propagated by an uncivilized few."</span><br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">A call for more censorship outside the walls of KZYX's Fort Philo?</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">...</span></font></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM, David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:uw@kzyx.org" target="_blank">uw@kzyx.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Norman.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Nothing is worth a serious discussion while people like bb
continue to be allowed to participate in listserves and
chooses to denigrate those she opposes or for whom she has a personal
dislike. Today we've moved from "pig", "paranoid", "alcoholic" to being called
"bigots". I have consistently asked for civility and what is returned is
anything but civil. Clean up the list serve or stop asking for modes of
expression. It's useless to attempt a discussion in this overtly hostile
atmosphere propagated by an uncivilized few.</font></span></div><div class="">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">David</font></span></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div align="left">
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black">David Steffen</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black">KZYX Business
Development</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2324" value="+17078952324" target="_blank">(707) 895-2324</a>
office</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20322-9895" value="+17073229895" target="_blank">(707) 322-9895</a>
cell</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2451" value="+17078952451" target="_blank">(707) 895-2451</a>
fax</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"></font> </div></div>
<div> </div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma"><div class=""><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Norman de
Vall<br></div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:03 AM<div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and
Community Adviosry Boards<br></div></div></font><br></div><div><div class="h5">
<div></div>Rather than spending more time on "right or wrong", let's ask
<div>the question: How are and to whom are the Members able</div>
<div>to express their views, opinions and suggestions regarding</div>
<div>programming?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On May 27, 2014, at 9:44 AM, David wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Let's review. This started with a misrepresentation of the
mission statement by Norman. He asserted this: "Interesting to note that
programming and operations is controlled by the membership." Norman's
statement was factually incorrect. That is not what the mission statement
says. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">David</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">PS. Please refrain from suggesting that anyone here has a
health problem. It's highly inappropriate, and has no place here, as serious
conce</font></span></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div align="left">
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black">David Steffen</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black">KZYX Business
Development</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2324" value="+17078952324" target="_blank">(707) 895-2324</a>
office</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20322-9895" value="+17073229895" target="_blank">(707) 322-9895</a>
cell</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2451" value="+17078952451" target="_blank">(707) 895-2451</a>
fax</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"></font> </div></div>
<div> </div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>BC<br><b>Sent:</b>
Friday, May 23, 2014 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry
Boards<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>David, why are you so reactive? Your job would be affirmed if
there was a better fit (philosophically & operationally) between the
station and community. Job stress would be lowered, business would be
attracted to support the station, and all could prosper with a new sense of
mission. I personally know of several thousand dollars that go elsewhere
due to perceptions of the station.<br>I really am perplexed with this
overreaction. Does the station need a shrink?
~BC<br><br><br>
<div>On 5/23/2014 3:40 PM, David wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Philosophy is controlled. Nothing
more.</font></span></div>
<div> </div>
<div align="left">
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black">David
Steffen</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black">KZYX Business
Development</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2324" value="+17078952324" target="_blank">(707) 895-2324</a>
office</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20322-9895" value="+17073229895" target="_blank">(707) 322-9895</a>
cell</font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2451" value="+17078952451" target="_blank">(707) 895-2451</a>
fax</font></div>
<div align="left"> </div></div>
<div> </div><br>
<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cindy Swan<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2014 2:35
PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:discussion@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">discussion@lists.mcn.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry
Boards<br></font><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span style="FONT-SIZE:13pt;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRomanPS;FONT-STYLE:italic">Its
programming <b>and </b>operational philosophy is controlled by
its membership, which is open to
all. </span></span></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div>Dear David,
<div><br></div>
<div>What part of the word "and" don't you understand?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It is grammatically correct to use the word "is" to refer to
both, </div>
<div>due to the presence of the compounding qualifier "and".</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you diagrammed this sentence, it would break down to:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><b>(1) Its programming is controlled by its membership, </b></div>
<div><b>which is open to all.</b></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><b>AND</b></div>
<div><b><br></b></div>
<div><b>(2) Its operational philosophy is controlled by its
membership, </b></div>
<div><b>which is open to all.</b></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Hence the use of the singular form of the verb in this instance.</div>
<div>Your argument for the plural "are" applies only when compounding two
plurals.</div>
<div>Please review "Compounding Sentences" chapter of your fourth-grade
grammar book.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><b>If the two were separately controlled by distinctly different
entities,</b></div>
<div><b>They would not be joined by the word "AND" in this
sentence.</b></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The Mission Statement assigns control</div>
<div>
<div>of programming</div>
<div>AND</div>
<div>operational philosophy</div>
<div>to its membership</div>
<div>which is additionally qualified as</div>
<div>"open to all".</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Please also note</div>
<div>the absence of the words </div>
<div>"General Manager"</div>
<div>"Program Coordinator"</div>
<div> "Board of Directors"</div>
<div>or any reference</div>
<div>to their roles in this regard.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Management and Coordination</div>
<div>are essential to KZ's successful</div>
<div>fulfillment of its grant requirements.</div>
<div>(Grants that were obtained</div>
<div>on the basis</div>
<div>of its Mission Statement, BTW.)</div>
<div>So they do have an obligation here . . .</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The membership entrusts the Board</div>
<div>to hire and make certain staff</div>
<div>is capable of doing so.</div>
<div>As Diane pointed out,</div>
<div>it involves the skill to</div>
<div>work with, rather than merely exclude</div>
<div>controversial opinions/issues.</div>
<div><b>Yes, skillful means are required.</b></div>
<div>This is the challenge that faces all</div>
<div>Community Radio Stations</div>
<div>in these times, as</div>
<div>this is the true essence </div>
<div>of Democracy,</div>
<div>which we find the newly-landed</div>
<div>so eager to corrupt</div>
<div>in favor of Oligarchy.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Baskerville"><span><span style="FONT-SIZE:24px"><span>ol</span><span></span>i<span></span>gar<span></span>chy</span><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:HiraMinPro-W3" type="US"> |ˈäliˌgärkē;
ˈōli-|</span></span></span><span style="MARGIN-LEFT:1em;DISPLAY:block"><span><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal"><span>noun</span> </span><span>(<span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal"> pl. </span><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:600">-chies</span>)</span></span><span style="DISPLAY:block"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal">a small <span>group</span> of people having control of
a country, organization, or institution </span><span style="FONT-STYLE:italic"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal">:</span></span><span style="FONT-STYLE:italic"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal"> </span>the ruling oligarchy of military
men around the president.</span></span><span style="DISPLAY:block"><span style="DISPLAY:block;TEXT-INDENT:0px"><span style="DISPLAY:block"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:LucidaGrande">• </span><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal">a state <span>governed</span> <span>by</span> such a group </span><span style="FONT-STYLE:italic"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal">: </span>the English aristocratic oligarchy
of the 19th century.</span></span><span style="DISPLAY:block"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:LucidaGrande">• </span><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal">government by such a <span>group</span>.</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Sincerest thanks to Norman for bringing this up.</div>
<div>And revealing management's </div>
<div>(current) attitude</div>
<div>toward its own mission statement.</div>
<div>Who does NOT have "control" over content?</div>
<div>Well, by law . . . </div>
<div>Underwriters.</div>
<div>And, according to MCPB's Mission Statement . . . </div>
<div>Staff</div>
<div>and Board.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If the above are working in coordination,</div>
<div>against development of </div>
<div>creatively and professionally produced</div>
<div>(local) programming</div>
<div>"that responds to the needs of the community"</div>
<div>a navigational course correction is in order,</div>
<div>lest the good ship become becalmed.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Yours in creative synergy ~C.</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On May 23, 2014, at 10:46 AM, David wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word">
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:14px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Good morning Norman.</font></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:14px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">The Mission Statement, as posted on our website and
cited by you in your email, is as follows:</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span style="FONT-SIZE:13pt;FONT-FAMILY:'TimesNewRomanPS';FONT-STYLE:italic">KZYX&Z,
90.7, 91.5 and 88.1, is the community non-commercial radio station of
Mendocino County, serving several counties in Northern California. Its
programming <b>and </b>operational philosophy is controlled by its
membership, which is open to all. Through its dedication to balanced,
excellent programming, Mendocino County Public Broadcasting reflects the
rich diversity of the county, while promoting a sense of community across
a large and varied area. The finest in national public radio programs is
made available, as well as local programs that are creatively and
professionally produced, responding to the needs of the community.
</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span style="FONT-SIZE:13pt;FONT-FAMILY:'TimesNewRomanPS';FONT-STYLE:italic"></span></span> </div>
<div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">If one follows both the words and phrasing, as well as
the grammer and punctuation, the content of the Mission Statement clearly
states that the station's ". . .programming <b>and </b> operational
philosophy is controlled by its membership." Note the use of "is" in
lieu of "are". It states a singular item, i.e. "the . . .
philosophy is controlled by its membership." Therefore, neither
programming nor operations are controlled by the membership. Only the
philosophy. "Philosophy", as you know, is the theory or attitude held by a
person or organization that acts as a guiding principle for
behavior. The membership can guide the programming and operational
<u>philosophy</u> but the membership does not control prtogramming or
operations.</font></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">David</font></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" dir="ltr" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" face="Bodoni MT Black">David
Steffen</font></div></div>
<div align="left">
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" face="Bodoni MT Black">KZYX Business Development</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2324" value="+17078952324" target="_blank">(707) 895-2324</a> office</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20322-9895" value="+17073229895" target="_blank">(707) 322-9895</a> cell</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:15px" face="Bodoni MT Black"><a href="tel:%28707%29%20895-2451" value="+17078952451" target="_blank">(707) 895-2451</a> fax</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:17px" align="left"> </div></div>
<div> </div><br>
<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">
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<font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Norman de Vall<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2014 10:26
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry
Boards<br></font><br></div>David,
<div>Am I quoting information from a previous</div>
<div>Mission Statement? If so, when was it amended?</div>
<div>Norman</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>On May 23, 2014, at 10:13 AM, David wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word">
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Good morning. </font></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Norman is incorrect. The mission statement does
NOT state that "programming and operations is controlled by the
membership."</font></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">David</font></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div align="left">
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" face="Bodoni MT
Black">David
Steffen</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" face="Bodoni MT
Black">KZYX
Business Development</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" face="Bodoni MT
Black">(707)
895-2324 office</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" face="Bodoni MT
Black">(707)
322-9895 cell</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" align="left"><font style="FONT-SIZE:12px" face="Bodoni MT
Black">(707)
895-2451 fax</font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:14px" align="left"> </div></div>
<div> </div><br>
<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">
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<font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a> [<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Norman de Vall<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2014 9:22
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry
Boards<br></font><br></div>Good Morning All…..
<div><br></div>
<div>This is interesting reading and worthy of review:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div><pre><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Courier'">KZYX Mission Statement
</span></pre>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE:13pt;FONT-FAMILY:'TimesNewRomanPS';FONT-STYLE:italic">KZYX&Z,
90.7, 91.5 and 88.1, is the community non-commercial radio station of
Mendocino County, serving several counties in Northern California. Its
programming and operational philosophy is controlled by its membership,
which is open to all. Through its dedication to balanced, excellent
programming, Mendocino County Public Broadcasting reflects the rich
diversity of the county, while promoting a sense of community across a
large and varied area. The finest in national public radio programs is
made available, as well as local programs that are creatively and
professionally produced, responding to the needs of the community.
</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE:13pt;FONT-FAMILY:'TimesNewRomanPS';FONT-STYLE:italic">KZYX&Z
pledges to be a responsible and responsive county-wide medium for news,
information, music, performing arts, entertainment, and local features.
KZYX&Z sees its programming as a complement to the work of
Mendocino's commercial media. The station seeks to foster increased
communication among all groups in the county and makes access available
to all points of view. </span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE:13pt;FONT-FAMILY:'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">. . .
from KZYX website<br></span></p>
<p><font face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><span style="FONT-SIZE:17px">Interesting to note that
programming and operations is controlled by the
membership.</span></font></p></div>
<div>
<div>On May 23, 2014, at 8:51 AM, id wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><span><KZYX-CAB2011Report.pdf></span><br>On May 23, 2014,
at 8:23 AM, Norman de Vall wrote:<br><br>It is on the last page
.<br><br><br><br>
<blockquote type="cite">What is the Mission Statement of KZYX and
when was<br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">it last reviewed and updated?<br></blockquote>
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