<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><br>Okay, Norman. Later. I'm in Sacramento's Grand Sheraton Hotel. (916) 447-1700 Room 2028.<div><br></div><div><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Norman de Vall" <ndevall@mcn.org><br><b>To: </b>kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:49:31 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Kzyxtalk] Norman Comments……<br><br>Please give me a call:<div><br></div><div>877-3551</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 14, 2014, at 10:55 AM, she-la wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote>Norman, <br> My article on the last meeting will be in the next issue of the AVA. Sorry for the delay but it was a lot to sort through to determine what are the most relevant points to be made.<br> The short of it is that I gave the Board a letter concerning my being told by a Board member, Courtney, that I didn't have a right to volunteer. I pointed that the Board had made a decision without a vote and without getting my side of the conflict. The end result is that Madrigal got permission from the Pres. to put a discussion on the agenda about the Board policy regarding volunteers. I asked if the power to exclude be given to management & staff , that the boundaries be clearly defined to prevent the abuse of banning for having a different perspective. <br> I am beginning to notice a trend. The people who have been banned are all coastal progressives. Marco Maclean, Mitch Clogg, myself, you, Sister Yasmin. I was wondering if anyone from the inland community has also been banned on some pretext but are all independent thinkers rather than station cheerleaders. <br> I am encouraging a caravan of people who have experienced being culled from the airwaves to attend and participate in the next Board meeting. <br> The Board has instituted a second Public Comment to respond to agenda items and Board discussion. Progress is being made but slowly.<br> Sheila Dawn<br> <br><br>Norman de Vall <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" target="_blank">ndevall@mcn.org</a>> wrote:<br><br><div><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">On February 7th KZYXtalk went "on air"<div>with the following post:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"Acknowledging that at least some</div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>people have something to say about<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>our public radio station, KZYX, and<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>being a proponent of the minority <br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>voice and free speech I've launched<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>a new <a href="http://mcn.org/" target="_blank">mcn.org</a> list site:<br><br><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>There is now a new way to express<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>y(our) views and hopefully it will<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>be followed by Board members,<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>staff and candidates.<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Please join the discussion.<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Norman"<div><br></div><div><i><b>(if you don't have the time to read this history</b></i></div><div><i><b>please drop down to the Conclusion)</b></i><br><div><br></div><div>on May 6th I received the following from the AVA</div><div>asking me for comment:</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"Disturbing rumor: Anonymous sources at the meeting said that Norm de<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Vall's Access show has been cancelled, as well as his highly respected<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>candidate interviews. These sources said that the action was taken because<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>de Vall is perceived as critical of management and that individuals with<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>such views are not allowed be programmers at KZYX or to host an interview<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>type program. What about that, Norman?"<br><br><br><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><br></div><div>I responded on the same date to the AVA with:</div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"From: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Norman de Vall <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" target="_blank">ndevall@mcn.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Re: Comment?</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">May 6, 2014 9:19:05 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>To: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><a href="mailto:ava@pacific.net" target="_blank">ava@pacific.net</a><br></span></div><br><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"Bruce,<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>First I have to make a correction re the ACCESS Program. I chose</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>to leave the regular programming format to do Special Editions of</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The ACCESS Program beginning in July of 2012.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The following is in response to the "rumor". </div><div><br></div><div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>After a brief meeting with Mary, I was told that</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>KZYX staff would conduct the (candidate) interviews; she</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>followed with (and this is almost a direct quote)</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- anyone who criticizes the station or enables</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>others to do so won't have a microphone-.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I called again last week and again received</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>a -we've got it covered-.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>So much for being a proponent of free-speech</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>and being a volunteer.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The real issue here was my launching kzyxtalk</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>enabling anyone to express themselves regarding</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>their radio station and programming while not being</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>able to do so on air.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>What an irony……Having to go to the internet to</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"talk" to say what you can't say on the radio."</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><i>It is my belief that the real contention here is that</i></div><div><i>KZYXtalk is an open forum without censorship.</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>But setting that aside I wrote to Mary and John,</i></div><div><i>with a cc to KZYXtalk on March 13 regarding</i></div><div><i>interviews and debates programming for the</i></div><div><i>June Primary Election as follows:</i></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"-----Original Message-----</div><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div><blockquote><div><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>From: Norman de Vall [mailto:ndevall@mcn.org] <br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:26 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>To: Mary Aigner<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Cc: John Coate; <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Subject: Candidate Interviews and Debates<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Mary,<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I'm sure we're thinking along the same lines regarding the primary<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>elections.<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If KZYX is going to continue with election programming it would be:<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Interviews:<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Third District <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1 hr. for ea. candidate<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Total<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>hrs.<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Treas./Tax <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>.5 hr<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>"<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Clerk Recorder/Assessor<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>.5 hr.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>"<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Supertindent of Schools<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>.5<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>"<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1.5<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Debates:<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Third District<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1 hr.<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Treas./Tax - Clerk Recdr.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1 hr.<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Sup. of Schools<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1 hr.<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Total +/- 10 hrs.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>or 1 hr. each week beginning March 27.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If you want me to host these interviews and debates I would like to know as<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>soon as possible as there is a great deal of study and fact finding that<br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>will go into each broadcast.<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Norman"<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I received the following from John the next day:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:25 AM, John Coate wrote:<blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div><blockquote><div><br><blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Is there a reason why your email list is part of this? <br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>To which I answered:</div><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>From: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Norman de Vall <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" target="_blank">ndevall@mcn.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Re: Candidate Interviews and Debates</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">March 14, 2014 4:53:01 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>To: </b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">John Coate <<a href="mailto:gm@kzyx.org" target="_blank">gm@kzyx.org</a>><br></span></div><br><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>John,<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>To get new ideas as our political landscape changes.<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>And some of the suggestions received have merit.<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>So no matter who may do the interviews they can<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>be more informative than before.<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Norman<br><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#6b0604"><br></font></div></blockquote></div></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div><br></div><div><i>In conclusion:</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I will be making my contribution to KZYX</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>during this pledge drive and urge others</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>to do the same. In time we will see station</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>policies which will address much of the</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>discord which has lasted for years.</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>But station management and our Board</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>must be open to criticism.</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>KZYX has no need to be secretive. </i></div></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>KZYXtalk has and will continue to be</i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>an open forum for discussion and </i></div><div><i><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>hopefully be beneficial to the station.</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>Norman</i></div><div><i>877-3551</i></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></blockquote></div><br></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></div></div></body></html>