<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"The nice thing about an e-mail list is, I don't have to read anything if I don't want to; certain people get deleted unread. Can't do anything similar on air!"<br>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Not true. On the air, certain people get tuned out, un-listened to.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">
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</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Tim Bray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tbray@wildblue.net" target="_blank">tbray@wildblue.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Norman,<br>
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I joined specifically to prevent this from being just another
platform for those who want to tear things apart. I've been
trying to provide countervailing views and ask questions to help
figure out what we all have in common and who is actually
interested in helping. It was my hope that we could have
conversations here, instead of just posting rants, like the AVA
does. And it's worked, to some extent; for example, King and I
have found some common ground, which I doubt would have happened
otherwise.<br>
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I don't find it ironic at all to assume that an Internet forum
like this would be a better place to have this kind of discussion
than the airwaves. Two people can have a conversation on the air;
three, tops. When it's your turn to speak, you can really only
respond to the last speaker, maybe to one point from the speaker
before that; it's impossible to hold a thread through more than
two speakers, especially for the listener.<br>
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And here we have no time limits (for better or worse), and it is
possible to carry on multiple simultaneous conversations. It's a
lot easier to respond to specifics here than it would be on-air,
where you get one shot before the discussion moves on - a
situation that favors the bullshitter. The nice thing about an
e-mail list is, I don't have to read anything if I don't want to;
certain people get deleted unread. Can't do anything similar on
air! <br>
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So all in all, I favor continuing this experiment. If you have
specific goals or desires in mind, it would be helpful to remind
us all of those from time to time.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Tim<br>
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<a href="http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com" target="_blank">Oak & Thorn</a><br>
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On 4/2/2014 5:43 PM, Norman de Vall wrote:<br>
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<pre>Ann,
I had hoped, when I launched kzyxtalk some months ago, it would provide
a forum to express ideas, differences and eventually find co-operative
suggestions that would benefit the station. A forum which station management,
board, members and listeners could raise issues which could not be broadcast.
Indeed, what an irony? To go to the internet to discuss what could not be
said on any radio program being aired.
Once again I was overly optimistic that we would contribute, build and do better.
But if kzyxtalk has become a platform to tear down the station and find only
fault, I ask you, should I take down the kzyxtalk list.serv?
I would appreciate yours and others opinion.
Norman
kzyxtalk host
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