<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Do you know how the Thursday forum will go? How many minutes we each will have, etc? I want to write a statement and time it. Thanks, P.</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:08 PM, doug mckenty <dougmck@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4427421027"><div>Tim,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I feel like we are finally cutting threw the BS and getting to the crux of our
differences. Is programming a management decision? This is John's contention, and I appreciate that. I am not asking to win an argument, I am asking to be allowed to have that argument in public, and have the members decide who wins. </div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I believe that when the mission statement says the membership "controls the programming and operational philosophy of the station," that gives the board the job of deciding what those will be. They can hire a manager to make those choices, which the current majority has agreed to do, or they can set up a committee, like the PAC, to help make those choices, which boards in the past have tried. This is the prerogative of the board.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>In the end, i am really happy that we are having a solid contested election where all these issues have come up. They even published an agenda before the meeting this time. I wish we were having these conversations on the radio and am looking forward to the candidates debate.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Doug<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Sunday, March 2, 2014, Tim Bray <<a href="mailto:tbray@wildblue.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tbray@wildblue.net">tbray@wildblue.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv4427421027yqt2128574991" id="yiv4427421027yqt92571"><blockquote class="yiv4427421027gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">
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It seems to me that you and I both want more and better
communication from station management and the Board. Where I
think we differ is in the degree of participation by the
listenership in management decision-making. You seem to want the
station to be run as a kind of collective, with participatory
decision-making, and I see that as leading to a different kind of
station than the one we have. (I think that management model is
unworkable and would lead to paralysis or worse.) It seems to me
that you also want more airtime devoted to station business, with
listener participation, and less to... well, what, exactly would
you have less of on air?<br clear="none">
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That said, we do agree about the desire for more communication
from and between management and staff. I have been working for a
long time to get that for the Programmers at least, because it
frustrated me when staff would make changes at the station and I
would find out about it on Sunday morning at 7 AM when I arrived
for my shift. The current staff is MUCH better about
communicating with programmers than they were when I started
there. We generally do get informed in advance about changes that
will affect how we do our programs, with training and guidance.
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p.s. I hope you didn't take "perennial gadfly" as a slight. It
just seemed an accurate phrase - and one that has probably been
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On 2/28/2014 10:32 PM, King Collins wrote:<br clear="none">
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<pre>Dear Tim Bray (and others of like mind),
I like your program and I see that you work very hard to raise money for the station. Thanks very much.
Early on you mentioned my name as one of the sources of complaints (below) and said that people like me "want a completely different kind of station."
Would you please explain what you meant by that? And I do not mean to be confrontational. I really want to know.
Thank you,
King Collins
Tim Bray said (excerpted):
.... there really isn't merit to the attacks on station management....Most of the complaints arise from a few causes (including) perennial gadflies who want a completely different kind of station (King Collins et al).
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