[Kzyxtalk] [MCN-Discussion]- [MCN-Announce]- Tell Gov Jerry Brown To Veto SB 649

[Marco McClean]

Daney wrote:
 > How many of the things you list (soap, etc.) can spy on you and give 
feed back on your almost every move?


     Cell antennas cannot spy on you. If that's what you're worried 
about, you can simply not buy a phone or Alexa or similar device. If 
you're that worried about people spying on you, you might consider 
constructing a windowless home out of concrete blocks, because it's been 
possible for many years to make a remote spy microphone out of thin 
walls and windows by bouncing an invisible laser off them. If the space 
aliens or NSA (or both) have a clear line of sight they can do this from 
half a mile away. They can hear everything you say. Also, whether 
there's a nearby cell antenna or not, they can park outside your house 
and use new X-ray scatter tech to tell what room you're hiding in. Also 
they can go through your garbage and count the bottles and figure out 
your taste in juice and vitamins.


 > How many intrude on your sleep and even your thought?


     Cell antennas can only intrude on your sleep and your thought if 
they're the focus of your obsession. In that case it's your own brain 
causing the problem. You're gaslighting yourself. It's like when 
religious people obsess about Satan. They're doing it to themselves. 
There is no Satan, just as there are no angels or leprechauns, etc. But 
try to tell a believer that and see what happens.


 > Is soap intrusive? Are doorknobs?


     Yes. You use soap and not all of it washes away. You're actually 
coating your skin with soap and some of it is absorbed into your body. 
If you can smell something, that smell is aerosolized physical molecules 
of that thing --shit, shampoo, mold, vomit, dog fur, whatever-- flying 
right up inside your head, and down into your lungs, and some of that 
gets directly into your blood. Also you touch food after you wash your 
hands with soap, and then you eat the food, and soap gets in that way 
too. You can trip and hit your eye on a doorknob and do terrible lasting 
damage. And doorknobs are a prime vector for bacterial and viral 
contagion, along with public things everyone touches: gas pump parts, 
shopping baskets, and so on. Radio is none of these things. You're never 
touching or even smelling anyone else's cell phone. Unless you are, in 
which case, hmm.


 > Can q-tips spy on you?

     That never even occurred to me. It's a funny idea; they're right 
there in the closet, conspiring and gathering info on, I guess, my 
various moods whenever I briefly open the closet door and they get a 
look at me. I say, let them; they're q-tips; who's gonna believe their 
lies? But spying is not why I mentioned q-tips. You mentioned 
/intruding/. Q-tips clearly intrude-- they go right inside holes in your 
head. And if you misuse them they can harm you. Never q-tip drunk. 
There's an old Chinese saying I saw in a movie once: "If you can still 
clean your ear with a toothpick, you're not drunk." That's terrifyingly 
bad advice. Up to that point I had thought the Chinese were smarter than 
that. But nobody is smart when they're drunk. Everybody who is drunk is 
a big stupid baby.


 > Are chairs intrusive? I mean, there's no 'there' there.


     There is. And they're there in everyone's home, in nearly every 
room and even outside in the yard, and they're harmful. Science has 
shown that sitting in a chair can be as bad for your health as smoking a 
cigaret. /No/ reliable science has shown that cell phone or wi-fi radio 
waves cause any harm at all. The only way to harm yourself or others 
with a cell phone is to drive or bicycle (or walk around somewhere there 
are holes or obstacles or other people) while using one. Or go nuts and 
hit yourself over the head with it. Or slip in the shower and have one 
get stuck up your butt, so you end up in the emergency room. That 
happens a lot more than people realize. But it doesn't just happen with 
cell phones; it happens with brush handles and narrow shampoo bottles 
and pickles and other things too, so it's just the shape of the thing, 
not what's inside it, that's dangerous in the shower. Dry out the 
shower/bath thoroughly and stick down friction pads. They have them in 
every hardware store and they're cheap and they last nearly forever. 
Totally worth it.


 > Can you list any really good reasons to have cell towers in every 
neighborhood?


     Yes. Sufficiently overlapping low-power cells mean perfect 
communication in any weather, and if the repeaters are solar powered, 
then once they're paid for and installed they're nearly free. Long ago I 
began advocating putting a network repeater on every third rural power 
pole for internet access. It might as well serve telephones. They're the 
same thing anymore. And that's just one reason. There are no good 
reasons not to have cell antennas in every neighborhood. At this point 
the only reason to have wired landline phones anymore is in case of 
atomic bombs or Cylons, and if that's the deal, then I say let's do all 
we can to eliminate atomic bombs /and/ Cylons. Maybe shoot all the 
atomic bombs /at/ the Cylons and solve both problems with one stroke. 
Unless we're already hopelessly infiltrated by Cylons... and they're 
secretly battling for supremacy with the Reptilians and the Grays. And 
Satan. Anyway, if /that's/ happening I want to use the internet to find 
out all I can about it and stay on the move between safe houses and have 
wi-fi wherever I go.


 > Or should we just pile on layer after layer of pollution until the 
personal and planetary ecosystem collapses?


     Daney, I know you're serious about low-power radio being pollution, 
but it's not. It's not harmful to anything or anybody but the oppressed 
miners of the modern world's raw materials for everything, not just tech 
toys. It's as though you're saying it's dangerous eco-catastrophe-level 
pollution to have some particular /color/ around that you don't like-- 
mauve, for instance, or hazard-yellow, or beige. All the colors we can 
see are in a narrow, harmless band. Electromagnetic radiation has 
different effects at different frequencies and power levels. A microwave 
oven can heat food because it's vastly more powerful than a microwave 
phone. Sunlight causes cancer because it includes radiation in the 
ultraviolet area of the spectrum, and that breaks chemical bonds in DNA. 
You're worried about the wrong things. By mentioning a random list of 
common things we all use and do as being much more harmful than radio 
waves used in communication, I wasn't saying you should avoid all those 
things. I was saying that if you aren't worried about all those things 
--and you shouldn't be-- then you have even less reason to worry about 
radio.


     The problem /I/ have with radio is from the monopoly nature of an 
industry based on the necessarily tiny number of general broadcast 
licenses, that gives control over virtually all legacy-band radio 
stations with any reach to exactly the wrong sort of people, who 
strangle what could be a much more varied and vital and human medium and 
keep it stupid for their own benefit. More on that later. Thanks. Bye.


--
Marco McClean
memo at mcn.org
http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com