[Kzyxtalk] Fwd: Apropos of this Tim Gregory brouhaha: typo correctedt.

Mary Massey mkathrynmassey at gmail.com
Thu Mar 23 13:31:47 PDT 2017


Mr. Gregory,

You are living in the past.  The listed info is true and accurate.  KXYZ
needs to move to the 21st century.  People who live and move in the margins
are usually, (notice I didn't say always) suspect and defensive about their
position.

Imagine if you Cardboard Prison Program, were to have a wider audience?  m





On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Tim Gregory <tgregory at saber.net> wrote:

> Since you continue to drag me into your bullshit brou-ha-ha, john, I'll
> make further
> observation:
>
> What the remaining kzyx listeners on this list can see below is js's true
> vision of
> the future for community radio. Ask yourselves, cui bono?
> ---
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>
> From: "John Sakowicz" <sako4 at comcast.net>
> To: "kzyxtalk" <kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:58:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Apropos of this Tim Gregory brouhaha: a blast from
> the past.
>
> This is so well-written, Marco, and the argument is so well-reasoned.
>
> I said it during the candidates forum on-air on March 15, and I'll say it
> again: If
> by some miracle I were to get my show back at KZYX, I'd gladly give that
> slot on the
> schedule to you. You do up to five hours of radio in a single show, and
> you hold my
> interest for that entire time. Your shows are, by turns, informative and
> entertaining. Some are darkly funny. More than a few are classics.
>
> Continue to build your digital platform for your show, Marco. KZYX is an
> anachronism. Live broadcasts isn't where it's at. On-demand online media
> is where
> it's at. On-demand mobile media. is where it's at. Podcasts, Marco.
> Podcasts. And
> webstreams. Start a Youtube channel, too. Fold in some video with the
> audio.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>
> From: "Marco McClean" <memo at mcn.org>
> To: "kzyxtalk" <kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org>, "discussion lists"
> <discussion at lists.mcn.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:35:28 AM
> Subject: [Kzyxtalk] Apropos of this Tim Gregory brouhaha: a blast from the
> past.
>
>
> (from the Anderson Valley Advertiser, Feb. 1, 2016:)
>
> Subject: Tim Gregory, ladies and gentlemen.
>
> Tim Gregory wrote: “Self-destructive souls are the hardest to
> understand...they go down to the crossroads again and again, and wonder
> why they
> keep getting run over. Without any real base on the board, or within the
> organization for that matter, js [John Sakowicz] will mewl outside the
> door forever,
> as does Marco...civility? No, thanks...team play? As long as they can be
> captain...
> We are bigger and better than this. The board did well to isolate the bull
> in the
> China shop so
> far--perhaps now we need help from Humane Society?â€
>
> Marco here. Tim, you remind me: I hardly ever listen to KZYX anymore; so
> much of it
> is so dumb, and when I'm not working at my various day and night jobs I'm
> watching a
> film or helping at the theater company or reading and writing and working
> on my own
> show (KNYO and KMEC); even so, whenever I flip through the dial lately and
> stop on
> KZYX I hear
> show-ejection-level pottymouth swearing. On Women's Voices, for example,
> the week
> after Xmas: a recorded airheaded Gaia-worshiping
> feminine-mysteries-of-the-universe speech with incidental ejaculations of
> shit. And
> on your show, Tim, a few /fucks/, for good measure. And Saturday night
> Jan. 23rd, on
> somebody's actually pretty good show: the Fish Cheer (F-U-C-K! Fuck! Fuck!
> Fuck!)
> (300,000 people yelling
> FUUUUCK!), and immediately after that a Richard Thomson sound-alike
> calling, in
> song, his official enemies motherfuckers. And my attitude about all that
> is a
> philosophical, /So what? Where's the harm?/ Because the FCC has never, I
> repeat
> never, pulled the license of any FM radio station for a few swears here
> and there,
> commercial or noncommercial, small market or large market, even outside of
> the Safe
> Harbor hours, so it's a trick that your self-important masters use to
> remove from
> their presence anyone who will not kowtow properly to their authority and
> please
> them. The bosses are not following the law because it's right or because
> it's the
> law -- really there are a lot of ways in which they don't follow the
> letter or
> spirit of the law; they're just using a scarecrow of the law to enforce
> their own
> arbitrary rule in what they think of as their clubhouse. And you know it.
>
> This was my experience in 1989 at KZYX. Sean Donovan didn't like Mitch
> Clogg,
> because Mitch wouldn't kowtow properly to him. He kicked Mitch off the
> Environment
> Show. I brought Mitch onto my show to talk about it. Next week Sean phoned
> on the
> night of my show and told me I was off the air and out of the station for
> good,
> don't bother driving there. Much later I was told: the official reason I'd
> been
> banned was that weeks before the Mitch offense I'd said the word bullshit
> at 2am,
> and Sean had saved that up against a time of greater need. That's how they
> do it.
> That's how Sean's appointment Mary Aigner got rid of Facilitator 1, the
> best deejay
> KZYX ever had. Mary just didn't like her, so she kicked her out and said
> it was for
> playing a sweary song in the middle of the night. This maneuver is what's
> called in
> the musical world a repeating motif.
>
> But, Tim, you know you'll never be kicked off your show or out of the
> station,
> because you're a true sycophant. The proof: your show is
> consistently objectively lousy. You put zero preparation and zero effort
> into it,
> and even your two listener/callers will agree to that. You show up with
> nothing, no
> educational content, nothing of an intellectually stimulating or even
> poetic nature,
> you play some CD sides and mumble the telephone number, and you ID the
> station.
> That's your show, over and over, for decades. Every time I tune to your
> show and let
> it run for awhile, there's little to keep a listener there, least of which
> your
> stoned-sounding breathy mumbling. Rick has an excuse -- he has a
> disability -- but he's clever and he prepares from a base of knowing a
> great deal
> about the music his engineer helps him play. Shining through his speech
> impediment:
> he's a musician and a scholar and a talented radioman. You're not. John
> Sakowicz is
> abrasive and mercurial and
> sometimes shocking, but his show is doing the work of radio and yours
> isn't. And
> Mary kicked him out because she goaded him into swearing quietly to
> himself in the
> background, not even on a mic, while she was at the mixing board
> sabotaging his
> interview show. And all these years she's been paid for that kind of
> sabotage, by
> the way, almost half the station's entire yearly membership money, a fact
> never
> brought up during the interminable unlistenable poor-sad-twinkly-us pledge
> drives.
> And, while all the office people who don't know jack squat about how to do
> radio
> were and are being paid like little barons and princesses, on a Mendocino
> scale, the
> airpeople are not paid at all, because the bosses have been lying all
> along that
> there is no money to pay people like Rick and Jamie and Verge and so on.
> And Verge
> bailed.
>
> Tim, when you stir yourself to try a little harder and do much better
> radio than
> I've ever heard you do, and you speak up about injustice in terms that are
> a little
> less mushmouthed and are even slightly focused, and /then/ they kick you
> off the air
> and out of the station and they claim it's because you played a song with
> a swear
> word in it, we'll all be interested to see how righteously and civilly you
> defend
> your abusers against all the others who spoke up and were kicked out and
> locked out.
>
> Speaking of which... Norman, when you go to the station tomorrow to
> inspect the
> records, bring your phone so you can photograph paper
> documents, in case they refuse to let you use the copier or
> sheet-scanner. And bring a thumb drive, so you can take big files away
> with you to
> examine later. I'm interested in finding out who holds the lease on the
> studio
> building, and to know the details of the lease. And I'd like a breakdown
> on how much
> the different office positions have been paid year by year -- so-called
> manager and
> superfluous program director and beyond-superfluous business underwriting
> coordinator and so on, because the pretend reports are not detailed
> enough. I mean,
> I'd really like a clearer idea of where that half a million dollars comes
> from and
> goes every year.
>
> We're all members as well as taxpayers, and so part owners of KZYX, and we
> have a
> right to know all these things and more.
>
> Remember, KMFB was an operation easily as big and busy as KZYX and ran
> quite well on
> about a fourth of that much, and had no government grant and no
> noncommercial
> charity organizational benefits, and everyone at KMFB was paid, including
> all the
> airpeople and, at least in its last twenty years, no-one was fired for
> playing a
> song with a swear in it, and the phone was always live and available, and
> there was
> no
> seven-second delay nor panic button, and everyone was comfortable
> talking about station business on the air if the matter came up in
> conversation.
>
> PS. I finally got to see the stop-motion animated film /The Boxtrolls/. I
> think it
> illustrates the situation at KZYX eerily well. And stay through the end
> credits;
> there's a wonderful dialogue between the two street sweepers, where the
> filmmakers
> leave the animator in the frame while the puppets talk about free will and
> destiny
> and all that.
>
> Marco McClean memo at mcn.org
>
> http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com
>
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