[Kzyxtalk] CAB Programmer Policy

[Doug McKenty]

That's just it Tim, I don't think the PAC was ever even properly implemented. The fact is the PD and GM preferred to make production decisions on their own, insubordinate to Board policy and the democratic process. 

If the PAC wasn't working, the proper protocol would have been to go to the board and explain the issues, then have the board alter or eliminate the policy. 

Instead, staff ignored the policy, and worked to cover up its very existence. By the time I got on the board in 2011, it was never discussed. I don't think anyone on the board even knew about it. Soon after that, the policy paper was found missing from board documents altogether.  



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> On May 1, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Tim Gregory <tgregory at saber.net> wrote:
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> the PAC right off was given their homework by the PD and met what, 4 times a year?
> all the replacement members were chosen by her also, as i recall. the CACs and CAG
> were gone...
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> this was the time when the moatbridge was raised by the board, not lowered, for
> community involvment with our programming...
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> I don't think the PAC was a big fail because of the way it was set up. I think it
> failed because staff did not feel like working with it, so chose to ditch it.
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> Doug
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>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Tim Gregory <tgregory at saber.net> wrote:
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>> not to split hairs, but with a few notable exceptions, the CAB has been the pro
>> forma
>> requirement for grant money.
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>> The CAG was made of reps from CACs, committees of boosters in different parts of
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>> footprint...until the creation of the PAC, which most would now agree was a big
>> fail...
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>> i look forward to CAB possibly producing something insightful, but not holding my
>> breath.  new PAC parameters have been promised...
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>> The CAG was the old vernacular for the current CAB. Hard to keep it all together
>> sometimes...
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>> I don't think Campbell is on the CAB, just Bushansky.
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>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Scott Peterson <scottmartinpeterson at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>> I just found this little gem:
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>>> "T Gregory: Previous CAGs failed because the most interested parties were
>>> programmers,
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>>> and could not serve on the CAG (on advice from a lawyer in DC). Board is
>>> discussing
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>>> CAG requirements, not talking about hearing from the public. I question the
>>> authenticity
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>>> of the effort. It's seen as a formality, with everything round-filed.
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>>> it's from KZYX meeting minutes here:
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>>> http://www.kzyx.org/images/pdf/mtg_minutes/KZYX%20Board%20mtg%20minutes%2012-08.pdf
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>>> The 'CAG' here stood for 'Community Advisory Group' .. which I'm assuming is the
>>> 'CAB' or
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>>> 'Community Advisory Board' we have today ..
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>>> so in summary -- according to a DC lawyer -- programmers shouldn't serve on the
>>> CAB ..
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>>> which takes us to Bob Bushansky and Stuart Campbell .. Mr. Bushansky is now a
>>> programmer ..
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>>> with a very exciting show titled, 'Politics - a Love Story' .. So is Mr. Campbell
>>> .. with a riveting
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>>> show of his own titled, 'Consider This' .. all reported on the KZYX website here:
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>>> http://www.kzyx.org/Board/KZYX%20State%20of%20the%20Station%20Report%20January%202016.pdf
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>>> so assuming this 'lawyer in DC' knows what they're talking about -- how can two
>>> programmers
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>>> serve on the Community Advisory Board? .. and if they're not serving on the CAB,
>>> then who is?
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