[Kzyxtalk] Local vs syndication • Planting Seeds

[Cindy Swan]

RE:
>  I believe KZYX owns everything produced in its studio, and nothing  
> can be syndicated without permission.


Perhaps "Syndication" is the wrong word.
(if it's viewed in a proprietary way)

One would think the creator
of the product would "control"
its distribution, etc.

And, as the
Membership
(surely, ALL your programmers are "members")
paid for all the studio equipment
and the building,
and the utilities,
they've already got equity, no?
(Was the caboose added as a production studio
or office? I've forgotten how that went . . )

Seems Barry, Maria and Dan worked out
something
that works —because it does.

Over the years
I have heard each of their programs
on other airwaves
(and via each of their websites . . .)

My sincerest thanks to all three
for their creativity,
their vision
and generosity  . . . .
It costs $$ to host websites, etc.

~C.


P>S> IMO, the quality of the program,
whether music or spoken words
is what builds
customer appreciation.
And purchasing/upgrading of Membership(s)
as well as Underwriting. . . .
(last time I checked, the only
allowable
"extra money"
for any 501(c)3 Public Radio station ;)


On May 19, 2014, at 5:28 PM, doug mckenty wrote:

> Could not agree more Cindy.
> I do not fully understand the syndication thing but believe Mary and  
> Barry V.  got into a conflict about this years ago when he began  
> syndication of radio curious.  I am not sure but have wondered if  
> they self-produce in their homes and not the KZYX studios, if a  
> programmer can legally syndicate.  Totally not sure, I just know  
> Christina Anastaad helps produce it and do not believe she goes to  
> KZYX to do so.  I believe KZYX owns everything produced in its  
> studio, and nothing can be syndicated without permission.
>
> I also agree we have some incredible talent here like Bill Courtney,  
> leading medical marajuanna specialist and Rosaland Peterson who just  
> spoke in front of the UN about chemtrails.  Believe it or not  
> Mendocino culture has a pretty positive reputation nationwide and  
> this could be exploited.
>
> Syndication would be a great way for the station to bring in extra  
> money as well!!
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Monday, May 19, 2014, Cindy Swan <cswan at willitsonline.com> wrote:
> Hi Doug & Diane,
> Thank you so much for your comments!
>
> In my mind, it's not really about local vs. syndication.
> It's more about how can the station have a sound
> that is unique to Mendocino County
> (that place everyone moved to because
> of the already existing lifestyle, not to "change" it ;)
> — rather than exactly what you could (and do) hear
> in L.A., San Jose, Baltimore, NY, D.C. etc....
>
> Several "syndicated" programs are produced locally:
> "Radio Curious" (Barry Vogel)
> "TUC Radio" (Maria Gilardin)
> "Shortwave Report" (Dan Roberts)
> come to mind as excellent examples of
> informative Public Affairs programming
> that is produced in Mendocino County. . .
> played on KZ air, as well as available to other stations
> as was "New Dimensions" for many, many years
> (and their archives of interviews are
> vast . . . and still available.)
>
> Mendocino County Public Broadcasting, Inc.
> is uniquely positioned to support development
> of this type of programming, as you not only have the talent
> but a county-wide network of three (3) production studios
> already in place, to support independent producers.
>
> We (also) have neighbors in other places who produce good programming.
> "DemocracyNow" (Amy Goodman)
> "Alternative Radio" (David Barsamian)
> "Counter Spin" (Pacifica Radio)
> "Making Contact" (produced by UC Berkley grad students)
> "California Report" (PRI?)
> "Native America Calling" (Tara Gatewood) produced by Native Voice One
>
> <http://stream.publicbroadcasting.net/production/mp3/nv1/local-nv1-1033850.mp3 
> >
> Did you know Mendocino County has nine (9) Indian Reservations  
> within its borders,
> the fourth (4th) most of any County in the US?
> Why not include to the voices of the Original people?
>
> All of the above are free (or minimal donation, based on demographics)
>
> RE: NPR
> Used to be our only source of
> intelligent dialogue on the radio.
> Back in the day,
> the beauty of KZYX was it was "big enough"
> to qualify for a CPB grant
> to pay for NPR programming.
> And, at the time, it was a goal to get
> that "level" of professional journalism on-the-air
> —not only to stay in touch with forward thinkers of the times,
> and inform the local dialogue throughout the county
> but also as an example of what's possible in radio. . .
>
> NONE of the above mentioned programs existed at the time
> and I would bet ALL were influenced by NPR's example.
>
> But.
> Times have changed.
> And so has NPR programming.
> More pablum than spice for thought these days.
> And so expensive, it has forced budget cuts in other areas?
>
>
> With so many other choices available
> it seems a shame to choose to ignore them
> —because you're too busy raising $$ to pay for NPR.
>
> Because, frankly, the past seven years have proven
> that if you're "too busy raising money to pay for NPR"
> you're "too busy" to create/support/encourage Community Radio.
> Kinda sad with a budget approaching half a million dollars.
>
> Hint: Expanding signal to capture Lake County memberships
> is only going to generate MORE debt. And less "community".
>
> ~Not an NPR "hater",
> we (k)now require new, and better tools.
> Like higher-fidelity online stream, and auto-archiving . . .
> i.e. functional, and far less expensive alternatives to those
> I (currently) hear voiced as priorities
> <http://kzyx.org/Board/MCPB%20GM%20Report%20May%202014.pdf>
> to the Board.
>
> ~C.
> listening to radio in Mendocino County
> since the days of Alfonso's . . . and Late Night Liz,
> back when KOZT, KZYX and KMUD
> were just a twinkle in our eyes :)
>
>
> On May 18, 2014, at 6:45 PM, doug mckenty wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> A lot to get around to.
>>
>> The construction of the PAC was interesting. One member elected by  
>> the board, one by the programmers and one by the community advisory  
>> board.  These people were to get together with the program director  
>> and choose three more according to a matrix of needs.  The seven  
>> member committee makes programming decisions by consensus, though  
>> if consensus is not found the pd gets the last word.  Any conflict  
>> should be reviewed by the grievance process.  I thought it was a  
>> good start.  My sense of the story is that it started off pretty  
>> strong but the air went out of the tires when word came down after  
>> John C. became general manager and the decision was made that the  
>> consensus of the group was not binding, and the group was only  
>> advisory in nature.  That interpretation of the documentation won  
>> the day and, neutered of any real power, the PAC because redundant  
>> because there was already a CAB.  That is the story as I have  
>> interpreted it from speaking with people who were involved.
>>
>> About the NPR question.  Tim, will you please stop referring to  
>> people who prefer news sources different from NPR as "NPR haters."   
>> As one of them, this attitude feels caustic and I am afraid will  
>> only work to continue to alienate the large percentage of Mendocino  
>> county residents who feel as I do.  Also, I want to know why many  
>> at the station feel that someone is trying to eliminate NPR.  Where  
>> is this coming from?  Paul Lambert accused me of the same thing,  
>> trying to eliminate NPR.  Where did he hear it?  The only time I  
>> ever heard anyone speak publicly about eliminating NPR was Annie  
>> Esposito at a board meeting where she advocated eliminating NPR and  
>> keeping the news department.  She pointed to KMUD as a successful  
>> example.  Please let me know who these people are who have  
>> advocated for this other than Annie, so I can let them know I think  
>> it would be a terrible idea.
>>
>> Also, though I appreciate your research, could I ask you to take it  
>> one step further and remove the programs that are musical in  
>> nature.  Will you compare the daily dose of locally produced public  
>> affairs programs vs. the dose of NPR or other "canned" news  
>> sources.  I don't think the music programming is a much of an issue  
>> here as this communities ability to hear locally produced programs  
>> about national and international issues that give us an alternative  
>> perspective from NPR.
>>
>> One more thing about the demographics issue.  I swear I have heard  
>> this notion that our radio station can't be "hippie" because too  
>> many "yuppies" have moved in, about ten times in the last two  
>> weeks.  In most instances there was the hint of sadness at the  
>> passing of an age.  I am forty one years old and my wife and I and  
>> all my friends who did not grow up here moved here because we  
>> wanted to get back to the land and we wanted to raise our children  
>> in one of the most progressive communities in our country.  I have  
>> not seen indications of yuppie invasion in my community nor any  
>> indication that more canned material or NPR has led to many large  
>> donations from these people.  Conversely, I do think a show about  
>> marajuanna might improve our ability to find such donors.  I for  
>> one hope that the old hippies will not give up...
>>
>> Wait, there is more.  The PAC is not designed to satisfy everyone,  
>> it is designed in part to create a public forum where critical  
>> individuals can go to complain.  This not only takes the onus off  
>> staff, which would alleviate a lot of unnecessary stress, but  
>> provides a venue where the complaint can be listened to in a  
>> transparent way.  I think having the program application review  
>> process become transparent would eliminate a lot of the issues that  
>> come up.  And giving those critical of current policy the  
>> opportunity to apply for the committee if they are passionate also  
>> gives them the hope that if others agree, real change is possible.   
>> The function of the PAC is to neutralize the negative energy of the  
>> complainer, not an effort to please everyone.  That is impossible.   
>> Though most Public radio stations have no such committee and allow  
>> the program director control, many Community radio stations, of  
>> which KZYX is one, do employ such a committee as they find it helps  
>> reduce conflict.
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 18, 2014, Tim Bray <tbray at wildblue.net> wrote:
>> Diane,
>>
>> As you note, the demographics have changed.  And as a friend of  
>> mine says, "It ain't Hippie Radio any more."
>>
>> If Doug is correct and half the listeners are "hardcore NPR fans"  
>> and half want more local shows, how can any process or committee  
>> reconcile those opposing views?
>>
>> How could a PAC be constituted in a way that satisfies everyone?   
>> This is the question I have been unable to answer.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2014 3:36 PM, Diane Paget wrote:
>>> A lot of what Doug says in this post reflects my experience of the
>>> station since it first went on the air. I used to be a very active  
>>> KZYX
>>> volunteer, hosted a month public affairs segment for a while,  
>>> helped my
>>> kids host Rubber Biscuit, wrote and tallied the first two listener
>>> surveys, helped in pledge drives. Then my life got busy and I didn't
>>> have as much volunteer time. When that kind of time returned to my  
>>> life,
>>> I went back to see if I could help the station out again and found  
>>> the
>>> atmosphere much more defensive and less welcoming to volunteers. I'm
>>> still a member because I do listen sometimes and I wouldn't want  
>>> to go
>>> back to what it was like before KZYX, but I listen a lot more to  
>>> KPFA
>>> and give them more money because I like their programming better.
>>>
>>> One of the things that has changed in the past 25 years is the
>>> demographics of KZYX's listeners. In 1990 a greater percentage of  
>>> the
>>> station's members were people who moved here in the 70's and 80's as
>>> young hippies, back to the landers, political activists and mom  
>>> and pop
>>> pot growers -- the kind of folks who like the homemade feel of  
>>> locally
>>> produced community radio. As more baby boomers have retired or
>>> semi-retired here from urban areas and university towns, where  
>>> they were
>>> accustomed to NPR type public radio stations, there is more  
>>> acceptance
>>> of (and maybe even a preference for) syndicated shows. Unfortunately
>>> those folks who have moved here from the city in the past 15 years  
>>> have
>>> lots more money to contribute to the station than those of us who  
>>> have
>>> lived here since the 70s. So if you are running the station as a
>>> business or even if you are just trying to pay off a lot of debt,  
>>> there
>>> is going to be a tendency to let the money speak. But the station
>>> started in debt and paid off that debt while providing lots more  
>>> local
>>> (and edgy -- don't forget the Beth Bosk had a show for years)
>>> programming and half an hour of locally produced news.
>>>
>>> A PAC might be able to address the problem of local vs. syndicated
>>> programming if it had the authority to make decisions and there  
>>> was a
>>> mechanism in place to ensure that the members of the committee were
>>> representative of the membership of the station. The recently  
>>> restarted
>>> Station Advisory Board members seem to have been hand picked by  
>>> members
>>> of the Board and maybe the staff. If there isn't a fair, transparent
>>> process for selecting the members of the PAC, it could be just  
>>> window
>>> dressing.
>>>
>>> Doug, do you know if the FCC regs or the station By Laws say  
>>> anything
>>> about one? What does the current board policy that created the
>>> Programming Advisory Committee say about how it will be selected and
>>> what its powers would be?
>>>
>>> The PAC has come and gone over the years. It would be interesting to
>>> look at that history and see why it failed, when it did.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>
>


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