[Kzyxtalk] Fwd: Re: Local vs syndication
BC
omni at mcn.org
Mon May 19 20:33:39 PDT 2014
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Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Local vs syndication
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 22:36:15 -0700
From: BC <omni at mcn.org>
To: kzyxtalk at lists.mcn.org
*In agreement with this*//string of thought, I'd mention that it is
logical that
most individuals in management will choose the safer method even though
it was
more capital intensive. Syndicated copy is just that. Local
programming is just a
nuisance for those involved in the reliability of program stream.
Regarding process of determining the public desire, that is again a
matter of
(new) community process and, in my opinion must be open/transparent and
etched
into the management of the station - forever. I suspect that regional
meetings are
necessary just to determine the questions to be asked.
The open process, in my opinion, is necessary not just to wring $$$ out
of the listeners,
but to facilitate the changes coming in our culture. Radio is the only
way to continue the
dialogue that will lead to enlightened communities necessary to move
into the future. ~BC
On 5/18/2014 8:55 PM, Diane Paget wrote:
> Doug,
>
> I would agree that changing demographics is only part of the story. Not
> sure where you live, but in Anderson Valley where I live, although there
> are young back to the landers too, we have been swamped by yuppies.
>
> If not demographics, why do you think that local public affairs
> programming is being replaced by syndicated programs and edgy
> programming replaced by bland? (if anyone doubts that statement, I'd
> suggest getting an archived Beth Bosk show -- if there are any -- and
> comparing it with Paul Lambert. And yes I know that Paul is much easier
> to work with than Beth, but sometimes we have to work with difficult
> people in order to have interesting radio).
>
> Diane
>
>
> doug mckenty wrote:
>> Ok,
>>
>> A lot to get around to.
>>
>> The construction of the PAC was interesting. One member elected by the
>> board, one by the programmers and one by the community advisory board.
>> These people were to get together with the program director and
>> choose three more according to a matrix of needs. The seven member
>> committee makes programming decisions by consensus, though
>> if consensus is not found the pd gets the last word. Any conflict
>> should be reviewed by the grievance process. I thought it was a good
>> start. My sense of the story is that it started off pretty strong but
>> the air went out of the tires when word came down after John C. became
>> general manager and the decision was made that the consensus of the
>> group was not binding, and the group was only advisory in nature.
>> That interpretation of the documentation won the day and, neutered of
>> any real power, the PAC because redundant because there was already a
>> CAB. That is the story as I have interpreted it from speaking
>> with people who were involved.
>>
>> About the NPR question. Tim, will you please stop referring to people
>> who prefer news sources different from NPR as "NPR haters." As one of
>> them, this attitude feels caustic and I am afraid will only work to
>> continue to alienate the large percentage of Mendocino county
>> residents who feel as I do. Also, I want to know why many at the
>> station feel that someone is trying to eliminate NPR. Where is this
>> coming from? Paul Lambert accused me of the same thing, trying to
>> eliminate NPR. Where did he hear it? The only time I ever heard
>> anyone speak publicly about eliminating NPR was Annie Esposito at a
>> board meeting where she advocated eliminating NPR and keeping the news
>> department. She pointed to KMUD as a successful example. Please let
>> me know who these people are who have advocated for this other than
>> Annie, so I can let them know I think it would be a terrible idea.
>>
>> Also, though I appreciate your research, could I ask you to take it
>> one step further and remove the programs that are musical in nature.
>> Will you compare the daily dose of locally produced public affairs
>> programs vs. the dose of NPR or other "canned" news sources. I don't
>> think the music programming is a much of an issue here as this
>> communities ability to hear locally produced programs about national
>> and international issues that give us an alternative perspective from
>> NPR.
>>
>> One more thing about the demographics issue. I swear I have heard
>> this notion that our radio station can't be "hippie" because too many
>> "yuppies" have moved in, about ten times in the last two weeks. In
>> most instances there was the hint of sadness at the passing of an
>> age. I am forty one years old and my wife and I and all my friends
>> who did not grow up here moved here because we wanted to get back to
>> the land and we wanted to raise our children in one of the most
>> progressive communities in our country. I have not seen indications
>> of yuppie invasion in my community nor any indication that more canned
>> material or NPR has led to many large donations from these people.
>> Conversely, I do think a show about marajuanna might improve our
>> ability to find such donors. I for one hope that the old hippies will
>> not give up...
>>
>> Wait, there is more. The PAC is not designed to satisfy everyone, it
>> is designed in part to create a public forum where critical
>> individuals can go to complain. This not only takes the onus off
>> staff, which would alleviate a lot of unnecessary stress, but provides
>> a venue where the complaint can be listened to in a transparent way.
>> I think having the program application review process become
>> transparent would eliminate a lot of the issues that come up. And
>> giving those critical of current policy the opportunity to apply for
>> the committee if they are passionate also gives them the hope that
>> if others agree, real change is possible. The function of the PAC is
>> to neutralize the negative energy of the complainer, not an effort to
>> please everyone. That is impossible. Though most Public radio
>> stations have no such committee and allow the program director
>> control, many Community radio stations, of which KZYX is one, do
>> employ such a committee as they find it helps reduce conflict.
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 18, 2014, Tim Bray <tbray at wildblue.net
>> <mailto:tbray at wildblue.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Diane,
>>
>> As you note, the demographics have changed. And as a friend of
>> mine says, "It ain't Hippie Radio any more."
>>
>> If Doug is correct and half the listeners are "hardcore NPR fans"
>> and half want more local shows, how can any process or committee
>> reconcile those opposing views?
>>
>> How could a PAC be constituted in a way that satisfies everyone?
>> This is the question I have been unable to answer.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2014 3:36 PM, Diane Paget wrote:
>>> A lot of what Doug says in this post reflects my experience of the
>>> station since it first went on the air. I used to be a very active KZYX
>>> volunteer, hosted a month public affairs segment for a while, helped my
>>> kids host Rubber Biscuit, wrote and tallied the first two listener
>>> surveys, helped in pledge drives. Then my life got busy and I didn't
>>> have as much volunteer time. When that kind of time returned to my life,
>>> I went back to see if I could help the station out again and found the
>>> atmosphere much more defensive and less welcoming to volunteers. I'm
>>> still a member because I do listen sometimes and I wouldn't want to go
>>> back to what it was like before KZYX, but I listen a lot more to KPFA
>>> and give them more money because I like their programming better.
>>>
>>> One of the things that has changed in the past 25 years is the
>>> demographics of KZYX's listeners. In 1990 a greater percentage of the
>>> station's members were people who moved here in the 70's and 80's as
>>> young hippies, back to the landers, political activists and mom and pop
>>> pot growers -- the kind of folks who like the homemade feel of locally
>>> produced community radio. As more baby boomers have retired or
>>> semi-retired here from urban areas and university towns, where they were
>>> accustomed to NPR type public radio stations, there is more acceptance
>>> of (and maybe even a preference for) syndicated shows. Unfortunately
>>> those folks who have moved here from the city in the past 15 years have
>>> lots more money to contribute to the station than those of us who have
>>> lived here since the 70s. So if you are running the station as a
>>> business or even if you are just trying to pay off a lot of debt, there
>>> is going to be a tendency to let the money speak. But the station
>>> started in debt and paid off that debt while providing lots more local
>>> (and edgy -- don't forget the Beth Bosk had a show for years)
>>> programming and half an hour of locally produced news.
>>>
>>> A PAC might be able to address the problem of local vs. syndicated
>>> programming if it had the authority to make decisions and there was a
>>> mechanism in place to ensure that the members of the committee were
>>> representative of the membership of the station. The recently restarted
>>> Station Advisory Board members seem to have been hand picked by members
>>> of the Board and maybe the staff. If there isn't a fair, transparent
>>> process for selecting the members of the PAC, it could be just window
>>> dressing.
>>>
>>> Doug, do you know if the FCC regs or the station By Laws say anything
>>> about one? What does the current board policy that created the
>>> Programming Advisory Committee say about how it will be selected and
>>> what its powers would be?
>>>
>>> The PAC has come and gone over the years. It would be interesting to
>>> look at that history and see why it failed, when it did.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
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