[Kzyxtalk] Steffen vs. Bosk - how resolve?

she-la sheila.dawn50 at yahoo.com
Thu May 15 12:07:54 PDT 2014


  I say if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. I don't believe in censorship by any group of any person for expressing an opinion.
 This is America, folks. 
  Beth expressed an opinion-David rebutted with his statement. End of story. Let's not blow everything up into a huge drama.
   I was falsely accused by W. Dan in the AVA of trying to blow up the station's computers with a vacuum cleaner.  I got a good laugh out of that distortion. I told the facts of the situation in the next issue. 
Let's give people credit for having the intelligence to sort out truth from fiction.  Most people have already picked out there allies in the fray over the radio station and its policies so let's try to keep the discussion civil and factual.
  I am tired of the power struggle. Let's find common ground to work through the problems we are encountering--lack of transparency in the decision making process and lack of true access of all points of view on our public air waves.
  Sheila Dawn

King Collins <king at greenmac.com> wrote:

>David Steffen says:  She (Beth Bosk) doesn’t know me yet she casually throws insults around, and the administrator of this list doesn’t admonish her or remove her from the list. The unconscionable epithets she regularly includes in her angry and dishonest screeds, which often get forwarded by her fans, have no place in any discussion of KZYX or the individuals.  
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>Steffen charges that Bosk should be censored. And there may be others who agree. 
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>But for the sake of democracy and the colonized masses,  let's not call on the list administrator. He's already done a courageous and costly service, by starting this listserv.
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>We know that the administrator has the power to shut us down, and if I may express my bias: Thank God it is de Vall and not Aigner who controls this list.
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>And so it has come to pass that on KZYXtalk listserv, the most democratic discussion that ever happened at KZYX, David steffen accuses Beth Bosk of casually throwing insults around (See above), and that Beth Bosk should be censored for her remarks. 
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>Suggested Grievance Procedure. I am not kidding about this.
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>Once the grievance has been clearly stated, and Beth has had the opportunity to respond, then I suggest we take comments from others and a vote to see if others agree that there is substance to the grievance. 
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>And if we the people have so decided, then we should have a hearing, perhaps in front of a panel of list users, chosen in some way, or perhaps a panel of judges chosen in some way, or perhaps in front of everyone. As in Common Law, we must find some way to reach a judgment. 
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>And should one be found guilty, we can proceed to the consequence phase. Here we can use our imagination. Perhaps an announcement in the newspapers that so-in-so was found to be to be guilty of making unfounded nasty comments, and/or so-in-so will be banished from the list for a period of time. 
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>I am serious about this proposal, because I don't want Norm de Vall on the hot seat, and because I genuinely believe that we must find a democratic way to resolve our differences and because I don't want to lose this list or anyone on it.
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>For KZYXtalk, --king collins
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