[CRNMC] County Charter

[karinajoy]

I believe this meeting is being called and hosted by Norman deVall and he invited 6 people only.

I see no reason why various small groups around the county can't also be meeting before we call a large group meeting to discuss possibilities. Let's encourage lots of small conversations - that would be true grassroots speaking.

Karina

On Nov 30, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Baile Oakes wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> With due respect to all,
> 
> This meeting is not a social get together of friends.
> 
> It is meant to be a brain storming session of people who are more than interested in pursuing a county/city charter. 
> 
> My understanding is the people attending this meeting would best serve the purpose of the meeting if they are deeply invested in the concept of exploring a county charter and have the time and energy to dedicate to organizing and manifesting the work ahead for the charter to succeed.
> 
> So the first question is to ask who fits this criteria.
> 
> Of all the suggestions that have come forth so far, I suggest the following people who may or may not fulfill the dedication that is needed.
> 
> Robin Sunbeam, Steve Scalmanini, Charles Wood, Doug Mckenty, Dan Hamburg, Dan Gerde, Ellen and/or Agnes.
> 
> With respectful sincerity,
> 
> Baile
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2014, at 11:01 AM, agnes at mcn.org wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robin,et al,
>>       Re lunch with Norm DuVall I suggest Steve Scalmanini since he is
>> on the Ukiah City Council in case we opt to do the Charter for
>> City and County, and Charles Cresson Wood since he has credibility
>> and support of CRN and  Transition Towns membership and is a law
>> student. I would glad to move over for both of them.
>> 
>> Agnes
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Robin et al – Re having lunch with Norm: I suggest Robin, Agnes,
>>> Ellen, Dan Hamburg, Dan Gjerde, and perhaps Jed Davis.  Mary
>>> 
>>> From: bodhirobin at pacific.net
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:54 PM
>>> To: Baile Oakes ; Community Rights
>>> Cc: Charles Cresson Wood ; Ellen Rosser ; Agnes Woolsey ; Ian Mackenzie ;
>>> Harry Ohls ; Jessie VanSant ; Mary Zellachild ; ndevall at mcn.org
>>> Subject: Re: County Charter
>>> 
>>> Also, I spoke to Norm DeVall.  He said when
>>> he was a county supervisor, that he wanted to get a charter going
>>> but couldn't recruit enough support from others, but it never got off the
>>> ground.  Norm said that he had communicated with the people who had
>>> been involved with the previous charter effort back in the '50's.
>>> It lost by 1 vote.  Norm said the "Big 4" always
>>> oppose it.  1) The North Coast Builders Exchange2) The
>>> Employers Council3) Farm Bureau4) Board of RealtorsNorm said they asked
>>> for an "Economic Impact Report" before
>>> putting a charter on the ballot.  He suggests we find out if we will
>>> need one, or that was an obstacle invented by the Big 4.  Norm wants to
>>> have a dinner at his house in Elk with 6 advocates of a
>>> county charter.He also wants to know more about the public bank.  He
>>> asked who could tell him more.  I said I could but I think he needs
>>> to hear it from someone more authoritative than me.  Maybe Marc
>>> Armstrong?  Locally, no one knows more about it than me, Ellen or
>>> Agnes.It looks like the CA Government Code states that 2
>>> things go on the ballot together.  One is the charter question
>>> stated in GC34453, and the other are the individuals who are running
>>> for election to the Charter Commission.  Each person
>>> running for the Charter Commission has to get on the ballotthe same
>>> way I got on the ballot to run for Assessor, with a petition of
>>> voters' signatures.  If the charter question fails, it doesn't matterwho
>>> got elected to the Commission.  But if the charter question
>>> passeswith 50% +1 votes, then the 15 best voted candidates become
>>> Commissioners. Sounds like a bonanza of fees to the county,
>>> having a ballot measure and 15+ candidates all paying fees to run
>>> for election.  The statute does saythat the government has to foot
>>> the bill for the election.  It keeps
>>> saying "for a city or a city and county."  Nothing here mentions a county
>>> alone.  I wonder if these are the wrong statues?
>>> In Peace, Robin34450.  Any city or city and county may enact, amend, or
>>> repeal a
>>> charter for its own government according to this article or Article 3
>>> (commencing with Section 9255) of Chapter 3 of Division
>>> 9 of the Elections Code.  34451.  The charter may be proposed by a
>>> charter commission chosen by the voters of the city or city and
>>> county, at any general or special election, but no person shall be
>>> eligible as a candidate for the commission unless he or she is a
>>> registered voter of the city or city and county.  34452.  (a)
>>> An election for choosing charter commissioners may be called by a
>>> majority vote of the governing body of a city or city and county, or
>>> on presentation of a
>>> petition signed by not less than 15 percent of the registered voters
>>> of the city or city and county. The petition shall be
>>> verified by the authority having charge of the registration
>>> records of the city or city and county and the expenses of the
>>> verification shall be provided by the governing body thereof. The
>>> governing body shall call an election pursuant to Sections 1000 and
>>> 10403 of the Elections Code.    (b) If any vacancy arises in a
>>> charter commission established for a city or city and county
>>> pursuant to this chapter, the vacancy shall be filled by an
>>> appointment by the mayor of the city or city and county. 34453.  At an
>>> election the voters shall vote first on the question "Shall a charter
>>> commission be elected to propose a new
>>> charter?" and, secondly, for the candidates of the office of
>>> charter commissioner. If the first question receives a majority of
>>> the votes of the qualified voters voting thereon at the election,
>>> the 15 candidates for the office of charter commissioner receiving
>>> the highest number of votes shall forthwith organize as a charter
>>> commission. However, if the first question receives less than a
>>> majority of the votes of the qualified voters voting thereon at the
>>> election no charter commission shall be deemed to have been elected.
>>> 34454.  Candidates for the office of charter commissioner
>>> shall be nominated either in the same manner provided for the
>>> nomination of officers of the municipal or city and county
>>> government, or by petition substantially in the same manner provided
>>> by general laws for the nomination by petition of candidates for
>>> public offices to be voted for at general elections.
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