[CRNMC] Distinction between our initiative and the Sup's

[Meg Courtney]

Sorry to be so loquacious but this seems important too...

I spoke to Dan Gjerde today. He does NOT think the supervisors will have a ballot initiative. Theirs will be, if it passes by a majority of the sups, a county anti-fracking ordinance - in house - so to speak. So when we are gathering signatures for our community rights/anti-fracking initiative we can make the distinction (if anyone asks, and even if they don't) between the two. 

My guess is that not a lot of people are even going to know about the supervisors ordinance unless they are really paying attention. Nonetheless it is a great idea to attend the Sups meeting on the 20th to support them.

-Meg

On May 17, 2014, at 8:48 AM, edward Oberweiser wrote:

> Thanks Tim for your thoughtful discourse. I have been thinking  on these lines for some time now. I am the chair of the Ocean Protection Coalition. We were the ones who started the sups thinking along the lines of a moratorium last year. We  just wanted to get a moratorium in place before fracking becomes legal in California. Then Dan Gjerde decided he wanted to fold it into existing county regs about oil drilling off the coast. So I just learned yesterday that it would be on the agenda May 20. 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Tim Rice <tim at multitalents.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2014, edward Oberweiser wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I just heard from Supervisor Dan Gjerde about an anti fracking ordinance on
> > the May 20 meeting agenda (see below).
> 
> This brings up some interesting questions in relation to our effort.
> 
> I would guess that those that think our ordinance was developed to
> "ban fracking" might get excited that the Sups may do an "anti fracking
> ordinance" too.
> 
> Some of us (hopefully most) joined this effort to get a "community rights"
> ordinance on the ballot. We chose  fracking as its "single issue" in the
> hopes that it will have the least push back in the county. Understanding
> that the concept of "community rights" has been forgotten in this country
> for about 150 years and so might require some education to get it passed.
> Once the idea that a community has the right to make decisions on matters
> that effect the community takes hold (again), there are more "issues" to
> be looked at.
> 
> So what effect might the Sups ordinance have on our effort?
> Like so many things, the answer is, it depends.
> 
> We could end up with a county ordinance on the books at election time.
> Then if the voter knew about it, they might look at our ordinance and
> say "Why do we need another one?"
> 
> We could end up with 2 ordinances on the ballot causing enough confusion
> to cause both to fail.
> 
> The Sups could decide to just put our ordinance on the ballot. Would
> that be a good thing? Maybe, maybe not. It would depend on if
> that would enhance or detract from our "community rights" education.
> We can't change our world without changing our thinking. Our community
> rights ordinance is part of changing our thinking.
> 
> I'm sure there are numerous scenarios. Some more likely, some less.
> 
> I guess I'll just hold the vision of shortly being able to ask just
> about anybody in the county "Who Decides?", and they'll answer
> "We the people".
> 
> Nothing happens unless we dream it first.
> 
> > Ed Oberweiser
> > OPC Chair
> >
> >  Dan Gjerde
> > 8:34 AM (1 hour ago)
> >
> >
> >  Ed,
> >
> > We have a very simple agenda item. It's direction to staff, showing support
> > For an anti fracking ordinance.
> >
> > If at least three board members vote in favor, staff will bring back a
> > complete ordinance for adoption at a later meeting.
> >
> > A show of support by audience attendance.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> 
> --
> Tim Rice                                Multitalents    (707) 456-1146
> tim at multitalents.net
> 
> 
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