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Michael Dean
sfomikedean at gmail.com
Sat Jun 14 19:17:13 PDT 2014
In my experience, when I arrive at a location and someone else is already
tabling, I consider that location forfeit. In the times that I have tried
staying with the other tablers it never works out well, the stores clients
feel overwhelmed, the manager comes out, its just better to go someplace
else when someone else beat you to the location:
On Jun 14, 2014 7:10 PM, "karinajoy" <karinacotler at gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone (a resident of Willits) should write a letter to the editor,
> citing the Pruneyard decision and your experience at Safeway.
> Several of us, who shop there could also talk to the manager and ask why
> they discriminated against us, even tho the others were breaking the law by
> collecting donations AND smoking near the door.
>
> My two cents,
> K
>
>
>
> On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Beth Brenneman wrote:
>
>
> *Today at Safeway. *
>
> *Patricia Norris had said no one would be at Safeway Willits between 1 and
> 3. Debbie and i decided to drive 1 hr. 20 min. to Willits and get
> signatures...and then go shopping at Safeway after 3 PM. We set up a tiny
> tv table with info at a pillar to the south side of the propane gas
> machines. There was already a table set up at the pillar right in front of
> the northern entrance/exit of Safeway. They were the American Legion and
> they were accepting donations from customers going in and out of Safeway.
> Within 20 minutes of our being there, the manager and the 2nd asst. manager
> came out to tell us to leave. I asked if they were familiar with the
> Pruneyard vs. Robins Supreme Court decision and they said they would bring
> me a letter which stated we needed to leave. The manager did, i read it
> and mentioned that the A. L. were taking donations which the letter
> forbade. I said i disagreed with the letter and what was the next step.
> The manager said that he would get Safeway's attorney on his cell phone and
> the attorney would explain why we had to leave. This took more than a 1/2
> hour to get the attorney; the attorney cited 2 cases that supported
> Safeway's position. The attorney asked me if i was on Safeway's sidewalk
> or a public sidewalk. I said i did not know whose it was; the attorney
> offered to google map it with the manager and they would tell me whose
> property i was on. In the mean time, the 2nd asst manager was moving about
> taking pictures, etc. We waited until after 3 pm and no manager came to
> show us google earth and their property. We photographed the A. L. still
> there and smoking directly in front of the door. About 3:15 we decided to
> leave since we are both sensitive to cigarette smoke. I went in and found
> the manager and asked what happened to the google map that the lawyer had
> promised. The manager said he didn't need it; it was Safeway's property!
> I told him that we were leaving because his American Legion guys were
> smoking right next to the door and we could not be around cigarette smoke.
> He replied sarcastically, "Have a nice day." *
>
>
> *It was 2 years ago that we WERE allowed to get signatures for Prop 37
> (labeling GMOs) in front of Willits Safeway. Now look!*
> *Now i am partly writing this to share but also to document it. I am open
> to comments about how to precede. This said, i know very well that our
> rights as citizens are being taken away faster than 10 vultures on a deer
> carcass. If i (or we) do nothing, we are giving up more and more. Just
> look at the good Germans in Hitler Germany:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.>..*
>
> *I think something must be done. So, any suggestions...*
> Beth B
> "The trouble is that once you see it, you can't unsee it. And once you've
> seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as
> speaking out. There's no innocence. Either way, you're accountable.” Arundhati
> Roy <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6134.Arundhati_Roy>
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