[CRNMC] another idea

[Baile Oakes]

Dear Agnes,

Thank you for your clarity.

My words are not intended to down play the important work and the time invested in the public bank and the charter process to date.

I have much appreciation and gratitude for all of ya'lls work.

My only point visioning the charter process and the public bank process as separate processes is supported in your words about S.F. establishing a charter first and then working on the public bank issue.

There is a lot of education that needs to be county wide on both of these issues for them to pass.

The passage of Measaure "S"  had the gift of the strong sentiment against fracking that was already present in our county before the establishment of the CRNMC.

I do not know whether Measure "S" would have passed if it was solely a measure to support and enforce a community bill of rights to protect and preserve the Sovereign rights of Nature.

Thank you for all your help.

With love,

Baile



On Dec 6, 2014, at 12:12 PM, agnes at mcn.org wrote:

> Dear Baile et al,
> 
> I agree with the idea of a list serve for those interested in helping to
> educate the public about a County Charter in the six months we have before
> it has to be submitted for the 2015 ballot. S.F. City and County are
> Chartered and are now close to adding a public bank.When they do many
> other Chartered Counties will follow suit.We took advice of the S.F.
> Attorney that a charter would facilitate establishing a public bank.
>     Ellen Rosser and Robin Sunbeam worked diligently over a year to make
> our county charter meet the CA Constitutional requirements for a
> Charter They took parts from other established County Charters in CA,
> of which there are 14. Why reinvent the wheel?
> 
> The Wall Street Banks have $2 Quadrillion derivative(bets) on their books
> and we are facing another economic crisis much bigger than in 2008.
> Derivatives have super priority in case of banks going bankrupt according
> to the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005. They will be paid off first, there's
> not enough money in the FDIC to cover a bail-in when depositors savings
> will be used to recapitalize the failed banks. We need to get our county
> money in a public bank and your savings out of the big banks before the
> derivatives bust.
> 
> Baile,your last statement I resonate with. Let's make the Charter the
> focus of CRN. This is a comunity Rights issue. PB would keep our money
> local. The Transpacific Partnership (TTP)trade agreement would make local
> money illegal. Obama and Congress needs to hear from all of us -Stop the
> TTP.
> 
> Agnes
> 
>> Dear Agnes et al,
>> 
>> 6 people do not represent the magnitude of our county.
>> 
>> Establishing a county charter can be a different issue than establishing a
>> public bank at this time.
>> 
>> i support establishing a list serve to be able to hear from a wider range
>> of people who are interested in investigating and establishing a county
>> charter.
>> 
>> Allow the process to determine the focus of the charter.
>> 
>> My understanding, which quite humbly is limited and could be wrong, is
>> that establishing a public bank can be done without a county charter.
>> 
>> and/or
>> 
>> a public bank can be established by amending a county charter once the
>> charter is in place.
>> 
>> clarity ?
>> 
>> with love,
>> 
>> baile
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 11:20 AM, agnes at mcn.org wrote:
>> 
>>> I and 6 others have been working on a County Charter and will not divide
>>> my energy at this time because we only have 6 months to educate the gen
>>> pub and other stake holder organizations with our power point slide show
>>> and a website for a County Charter.
>>> 
>>> Agnes
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Baile Oakes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> At the same time, it is important for the members of the CRNMC to
>>>>> become
>>>>> clear regarding what we wish to manifest..what defines us..as we move
>>>>> on
>>>>> from the single focus of Measure "S."
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (This may just be a semantics issue.) I would disagree that the single
>>>> focus has been Measure S. It has always been about Community Rights
>>>> and S was just the first step in declaring and securing those rights.
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking forward to the WindTunneling training in Jan. That
>>>> is going to be a useful tool for (among other things) getting some
>>>> clarity on thing(s) we should be working on next.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Rice				Multitalents	(707) 456-1146
>>>> tim at multitalents.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
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