[CRNMC] ADDING TO AGENDA on call with Thomas Linzey Wednesday at 5:30 PM

Shannon Biggs shannon at globalexchange.org
Tue Aug 26 13:19:29 PDT 2014


This is a question I can answer ­ it would involve continuing to work with
me and CELDF in the same partnership. This ordinance will lay a groundwork
for the framework, but each ordinance requires its own process. You can (and
could have chosen this time too but had strategic reasons not to) instead of
doing an ordinance, opt to put a single subject into your existing charter,
which makes it stronger and harder to knock down.  If you are looking to
rewrite your town¹s charter, there is a whole other process for doing that,
which we can touch on on the Thomas call. I will add to the agenda. Thanks.

Best, Shannon 


On 8/26/14 12:57 PM, "dougmck at mcn.org" <dougmck at mcn.org> wrote:

> Shannon,
> 
> I would like Thomas to spend a few minutes describing how this Measure can be
> coordinated with other future measures and eventually a county charter.  When
> I spoke to Ben he described that CELDF has worked on charters as well.
> 
> If we are passing a community bill of rights, do we have to pass another one,
> or add to this one later when we want to do other things?
> 
> Doug 
> 
> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>>  "Shannon Biggs" <shannon at globalexchange.org>
>> 
>> To:
>> "Meg Courtney" <mcourtney1 at mcn.org>, "Community Rights Network"
>> <crn at lists.mcn.org>
>> Cc:
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>> Sent:
>> Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:20:44 -0700
>> Subject:
>> Re: [CRNMC] ADDING TO AGENDA on call with Thomas Linzey Wednesday at 5:30 PM
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>> 
>> Re: ADDING TO AGENDA  on call with Thomas Linzey Wednesday at 5:30 PMOK ­
>> please send me the others by tomorrow, please consolidate and send them to me
>> together if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/25/14 5:12 PM, "Meg Courtney" <mcourtney1 at mcn.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Shannon et al,
>>> 
>>> This is clarification for the issue Huffman raised that I would like to have
>>> on the agenda: It is called UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
>>> Does the Community Rights approach open the door to other initiatives where
>>> communities can assert THEIR rights which may NOT be "GOOD" and may in fact
>>> be used to dismantle "GOOD" existing State and Federal Laws that now protect
>>> the environment, etc.?   
>>> 
>>> Think: 3 Strikes Initiative (funded by the prison industry) and Prop 13 (by
>>> Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assoc. cutting taxes and leaving CA with (for one
>>> thing) one of the most underfunded school systems in the States)
>>> These sounded "good" at the time (unless you really studied up) and yet they
>>> are really harmful
>>> 
>>> I struck out the Public Trust Doctrine (below) that Huffman mentioned
>>> because you have apparently already found that it is not viable for us.
>>> 
>>> I probably can't make the call unless I can get out of a previous
>>> commitment. :-( arg.  
>>> Carrie will be my stand-in
>>> Meg
>>>> * Single subject rule of our ordinance  (or are folks now clear on this?)
>>>> * Public Trust doctrine ­ why it doesn¹t actually protect us (regulatory
>>>> fallacy) 
>>>> * Traditional legal pushback (and why this isn¹t a legal strategy, but an
>>>> organizing framework)
>>>> * Community rights as supreme over fed and state does not mean ³majority
>>>> rule² 
>>> ADD: Community Rights, possible unintended consequences?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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