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<font face="DorovarFLF-Carolus">I love this! Great cartoon - and
how can I sign the petition?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2017 6:46 PM, King Collins
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type="cite">Hi Norman,
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<div>Regarding the question of the 5% requirement.
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<div>A petition would be passed around and signatures requested.
There would have to be 5% of the (approximately) 2200 (I
think) current members. That's 110 members. How would you tell
if they were actually members? Someone would have to check the
membership list to certify that each signature is a valid
member. </div>
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<div>Verification of signatures could be done by the same
(outside) agent that does the ballot count. Or it could be
done by members if they could enforce their right to see the
member list. </div>
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<div>Below is a petition (after the cartoon). I got thirty
signatures at the Ukiah Farmers Market in an hour, but those
of us (Members For Change) never agreed on the strategy of
putting an Initiative on the Ballot. </div>
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<div>--king</div>
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<div>On Mar 21, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Norman de Vall
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<div class="">Organizations eventually have their
own DNA. You could change all the members </div>
<div class="">of the board and you wouldn’t see
much change. Same thing happens in Congress.</div>
<div class="">We’d have a more pro-active open
board if the members were chosen at random</div>
<div class="">from the membership if they were
willing to serve. Sort of like the Grand Jury.</div>
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<div class="">The objective of most organizations
is to maintain the status quo. But like</div>
<div class="">people, they go through an aging
process and if change does not happen </div>
<div class="">they will disappear. Most
businesses, public and private, over time have
either </div>
<div class="">“re-structured” themselves, gone
into bankruptcy, been merged, bought out,</div>
<div class="">or collapsed. I once offered to
share a book on this subject with the </div>
<div class="">then GM and was rudely rebuked.</div>
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How would you know if you’d met the 5%
requirement?
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<div class="">On Mar 21, 2017, at 5:14 PM,
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<div class="">You have my vote, <span
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<b class="">To: </b>"kzyxtalk" <<a
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<b class="">Sent: </b>Tuesday,
March 21, 2017 4:53:03 PM<br
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<b class="">Subject: </b>[Kzyxtalk]
Structural change: Requre Board to
Communicate with Members<br
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To KZYX Members and Board<br
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Re. Structural Change<br class="">
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It seems to be very hard to get this
across:<br class="">
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Years of watching and recording
events as KZYX board members come
and go, has convinced me that:<br
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It is not all that important which
person is elected to the board,
whether that person is a person of
good character and or appears to be
interested in the station. There
have been many good people, and I
think of most of them as friends.<br
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All those on the board, with few
exceptions, over the years have been
a good people, caring people, fine
people. Yet somehow these good
people just flounder along, seldom
ask the right questions and go with
whatever prevailing wind blows
through the boardroom. And the same
centrist hierarchical wind has
prevailed since KZYX was founded by
Sean Donavon, or certainly since the
time I was on the board <br
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The only way that things will change
in the direction of more control by
the local membership, by the local
people, is a Structural Change in
the way the board is organized. In
particular KZYX, which defines
itself as a member controlled
organization should have a
requirement, a structural
requirement, a bylaw that REQUIRES
board members to interact,
frequently and regularly with the
members who elected them. <br
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That has never been tried in any
serious way. If board members had to
present themselves, and their plans,
not just once but regularly, in
front of the members, those with
good ideas will have a chance, and
those who are weak or ineffective
will reveal themselves.<br class="">
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Whereas in the current process the
board meets in secret and the public
never get to know what board members
are like and how each contributes to
the discussion or even what is
discussed. Who knows what happened?
Those who are weak and ineffective,
or tired, or just going along---may
very well continue forever and
nothing will change, and indeed
nothing has changed. (See The Secret
Life of KZYX, written in 2005, when
I posited the existence of
"Centrist" and "Egalitarian"
tendencies.)<br class="">
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Act Of The Membership by means of a
Ballot Initiative.<br class="">
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For membership control, it comes
down to how such structural change
can be accomplished. There are other
ways than electing individual board
members. There is something called
an Act Of The Membership, which can
be a Ballot Initiative, passed by a
majority of the voting members,
establishing a new bylaw which to
require the board to interact
directly with the membership (as
specified in the bylaw, perhaps a
regular radio show, opening the
closed board list serv, a public
email listserv, or other means). <br
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That would be a structural change
that directly challenges the current
process of secret meetings, closed
board listserv and very infrequent
board meetings with limited
opportunity for public interaction
and refusal of board members to even
answer questions from the floor.<br
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For a Ballot Initiative To Require
Board Members To Communicate
Regularly With Members<br class="">
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--king collins<br class="">
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P.S. The Ballot Initiative can be
forced (to be put on the next
election ballot) by a petition
signed by 5% of the members. <br
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