<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" data-mce-style="color: #333333; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: #fdfdfd;">Programmer-elected Board members don't do shit for KZYX programmers. Stuart Campbell told me so himself when I asked why he wasn't advocating for me, Doug McKenty, Dr. Richard Miller, and Norman De Vall when we all rather rudely lost our shows when we spoke up against Coate-Aigner and their self-dealing, cronyism, and dominance of station politics, finances, and programming. Campbell just step aside when we were purged. He doesn't represent labor. He's a company man through and through...pro-management in every respect until he himself became management.</span></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" data-mce-style="color: #333333; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: #fdfdfd;"><br></span></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" data-mce-style="color: #333333; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: #fdfdfd;">Again, with at least two shows on the KZYX schedule for years and years and years, Tim Bray is part of the problem. He should "term out". </span></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Derek" <helios@saber.net><br><b>To: </b>"announce" <announce@lists.mcn.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 30, 2016 6:44:25 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [MCN-Announce]- "Risk being fired?" Re: Tim Bray KZYX statements<br><div><br></div>Oh my, I can't let this pass, I'll just break Tim Bray's babble talk <br>down so it's more easily understood.<br><div><br></div>Eric Sunswheat implied that KZYX programmers speaking critically about <br>the station, or management, would lose their shows.<br><div><br></div>Tim Bray responded with a question, implying Mr. Sunswheat didn't know <br>what he was talking about.<br><div><br></div>Then Mr. Bray said, "Programmers are as free as anyone else to write <br>opinions.".<br><div><br></div>Which is technically correct, anyone is free to write opinions, but Mr. <br>Bray cleverly neglects to mention anything about specific opinions <br>concerning KZYX.<br><div><br></div>Mr. Bray followed that with, "The only time we represent the station <br>(and thus have to issue the disclaimer) is when we are on the air.".<br><div><br></div>Mr. Bray wants you to think those two sentences go together, but they <br>don't, as neither of them actually refute Mr. Sunswheat's assertion, but <br>Mr. Bray would like you to think that they do.<br><div><br></div>And see how Mr. Bray uses a canard to avoid the issue, the second <br>sentence adds nothing to the conversation, except to confuse those who <br>aren't paying closer attention, it's a common tactic used by those who <br>want manipulate others opinions.<br><div><br></div>So, as a 34+ year radio broadcaster, and 13 year programmer on KZYX, let <br>me add this, Eric Sunswheat is correct, KZYX programmers were always <br>under threat of losing their shows if they wrote or spoke publicly about <br>anything critical of KZYX management, staff, or associated monkey <br>business, that is a fact, and there are multiple email threads about it <br>that were posted over the years to the private KZYX programmers <br>listserv, it's irrefutable.<br><div><br></div>Fortunately, now that KZYX has a new General Manager, I believe this not <br>so tacit "policy" isn't in effect anymore, I may be mistaken about that, <br>but I believe the current GM is a wise person, and I've seen plenty of <br>evidence that she isn't afraid of open dialog, which I see as a <br>refreshing change for the better.<br><div><br></div>Now, back to Mr. Bray, please notice how he avoids Scott Peterson's <br>important information with a shallow dismissal, and moves right to the <br>crux of the matter by stating, "The fact is that we have had <br>programmer-elected Board members (along with the restriction on the <br>number of seats that can be held by programmers) for as long as I can <br>remember, and I've never heard anyone raise an objection until now.".<br><div><br></div>The last part of that sentence betrays Mr. Bray's lockstep adherence to <br>the old KZYX party line, he's actually attempting to dismiss Mr. <br>Peterson's information by using the the old, "well, it's always been <br>this way, so no need to change it, even if it's wrong", canard.<br><div><br></div>Astounding, and unfortunately, some folks believe it, because Mr. Bray <br>presents himself as such a "reasonable" person.<br><div><br></div>Yeah, reasonable enough to throw water on me, and another KZYX member <br>who was speaking out at a MCPB/KZYX board meeting against corruption, <br>it's called "assault" and it's legally actionable.<br><div><br></div>I witnessed Mr. Bray harassing and bulling that member, even getting up <br>in his face, very closely, and calling him rude names, in a crude <br>attempt to silence him from objecting to what that member believed to be <br>illegal board activity.<br><div><br></div>And I believe there most certainly is cronyism at KZYX , and it's NOT <br>the whistle blowers like John Sakowicz, it starts at the Board level, <br>and infected the past staff, and many Philo based programmers, including <br>Mr. Bray.<br><div><br></div>Nobody I've ever spoken to about this has a "vendetta" against KZYX, as <br>so many have asserted, and nobody wants to see KZYX "die", as others <br>have said, and if anyone speaks out against the KZYX lockstep hive mind, <br>then they are accused of being associated with John Sakowicz (as if it's <br>some kind of evil thing), but these are all shallow canards used to <br>marginalize, and demean, anyone who dares ask important questions, or <br>speaks critically about KZYX, staff, management, or finances.<br><div><br></div>What's really sad here, is that most folks can't be bothered to see that <br>their Community radio station has been co-opted by those who have been <br>slowly strangling it, and closing it to the wider voice of the <br>Community, and instead, are vilifying those who are the whistle blowers.<br><div><br></div>With the multiple KZYX members coming forward to point out the serious <br>problems with KZYX and the MCPB Board, how can anyone honestly believe <br>that all of these independent whistle blowers are wrong, crazy, hateful, <br>etc., apparently some folks have lost their ability for critical thinking.<br><div><br></div>Derek -<br><div><br></div>P.S. Yeah, yeah, I know, take it to the discussion list, like I'm ever <br>going back there again, ha, ha, ha.<br><div><br></div>----------<br><div><br></div>On 5/30/2016 4:20 PM, Eric Sunswheat wrote:<br>> >On 5/30/2016 11:54 AM, Eric Sunswheat wrote:<br>> ><br>> >Note that Tim Bray wrote his own opinion not necessarily that of, policies<br>> >up held by rules of governance, the members, staff, management and or its<br>> >board of directors, and as programmer he best include limitations in email<br>> >or risk be fired.<br>> >Eric<br>> ><br><div><br></div><br>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Tim Bray wrote:<br>><br>>> > What are you talking about?<br>>> ><br>>> >Programmers are as free as anyone else to write opinions. The only time<br>>> >we represent the station (and thus have to issue the disclaimer) is when we<br>>> >are on the air.<br>>> ><br>>> >As for Peterson's questions, I'll leave that to the barracks-room<br>>> >lawyers. The fact is that we have had programmer-elected Board members<br>>> >(along with the restriction on the number of seats that can be held by<br>>> >programmers) for as long as I can remember, and I've never heard anyone<br>>> >raise an objection until now. For some reason Sacowicz and his cronies<br>>> >have directed their ire at Campbell, and this is just part of their<br>>> >campaign against him. Sure seems like there are more constructive ways to<br>>> >spend time.<br>>> >--<br>>> >Cheers,<br>>> >Tim<br>>> >Ecology Hour<https://ecologyhour.wordpress.com/><br>>> >Oak & Thorn<http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com><br>>> >Facebook: Oak and Thorn<https://www.facebook.com/oakandthorn><br><div><br></div>From: Scott Peterson<br>Date: Mon, May 30, 2016 at 10:42 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] [MCN-Announce]- Fwd: Raoul van Hall<br><div><br></div>opinions aren't the point here .. the rules are ..<br>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>MCPB Bylaws:<br><div><br></div>Article IX. MEMBERSHIP<br><div><br></div>Section 9.01 Classification:<br><div><br></div>1) There shall be one (1) class of Member in MCPB.<br><div><br></div>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br><div><br></div>what Mr. Bray is proposing is that there are actually two classes of<br>members .. and this has been<br>the case for thirteen years .. which would be fine and dandy except for the<br>date on each and every<br>page of the bylaws .. at the lower left-hand corner:<br><div><br></div>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br><div><br></div>Adopted 12 July 2010<br><div><br></div><br>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br><div><br></div><br>so now it appears that we have two classes of rules ..<br><div><br></div>__________________________________________________________<br>__________________________________________________________<br><div><br></div>Announcement mailing list<br>announce@lists.mcn.org<br>The Mendocino Community Network (MCN) provides the MCN Announcement list.<br>Use of the list is subject to the terms of service at<br>http://www.mcn.org/email/atos.html<br><div><br></div>__________________________________________________________<br>__________________________________________________________<br><div><br></div>TO POST to this list send emails to announce@lists.mcn.org <br>TO UNSUBSCRIBE from this list send an email to announce-leave@lists.mcn.org<br>*** To complete the process you must reply to the email you receive in response. ***<br><div><br></div>For listserv technical problems please contact:<br>listmanager@mcn.org<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>