<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">fyi<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Tim Gregory" <<a href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net">tgregory@saber.net</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [Kzyxtalk] Fwd: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">March 1, 2016 2:56:53 PM PST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br></span></div><br><div>no, you were obviously a mistake to be included, and you proved it right away.<br>---<br><br><br><br>At last, we're included in the conversation:<br><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">From: "Jerry Fraley" <<a href="mailto:operations@kzyx.org">operations@kzyx.org</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: A proposal, and I need your collective memory....<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Date: February 29, 2016 9:06:19 PM PST<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: "'Angela DeWitt'" <<a href="mailto:ms.adewitt@gmail.com">ms.adewitt@gmail.com</a>>, "'General Manager'" <<a href="mailto:gm@kzyx.org">gm@kzyx.org</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:membership@kzyx.org">membership@kzyx.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:uw@kzyx.org">uw@kzyx.org</a>>, "'Barbara Lamb'" <<a href="mailto:blamb@pacific.net">blamb@pacific.net</a>>, "'Bob<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Vaughan'" <<a href="mailto:est.prophet@yahoo.com">est.prophet@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Cheri Christianson'" <<a href="mailto:chrisarn@mcn.org">chrisarn@mcn.org</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"'Chris Skyhawk'" <<a href="mailto:hawkrad@mcn.org">hawkrad@mcn.org</a>>, "'Colleen Bassett'" <<a href="mailto:colleenb@pacific.net">colleenb@pacific.net</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"'Dave Barre'" <<a href="mailto:dabarre@wildblue.net">dabarre@wildblue.net</a>>, "'Diane Hering'" <<a href="mailto:dhering@pacific.net">dhering@pacific.net</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"'Doug Livingston'" <<a href="mailto:livingstonconsulting@hughes.net">livingstonconsulting@hughes.net</a>>, "'Doug Mosel'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:dmosel@wildblue.net">dmosel@wildblue.net</a>>, "'Eric Labowitz'" <<a href="mailto:lab@pacific.net">lab@pacific.net</a>>, "'Floriane Weyrich'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:fweyrich@msn.com">fweyrich@msn.com</a>>, "'Fred Wooley'" <<a href="mailto:freddybudd@starband.net">freddybudd@starband.net</a>>, "'Gordon Black'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:gblack@mcn.org">gblack@mcn.org</a>>, "'Greg Krouse'" <<a href="mailto:earthdance@saber.net">earthdance@saber.net</a>>, "'Jamie Roberts'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:jamier@mcn.org">jamier@mcn.org</a>>, "'Jeffrey Blankfort'" <<a href="mailto:jblankfort@earthlink.net">jblankfort@earthlink.net</a>>, "'Jeremy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dodds'" <<a href="mailto:Skaselecter@yahoo.com">Skaselecter@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Jim Heid'" <<a href="mailto:Jim@jimheid.com">Jim@jimheid.com</a>>, "'Jimmy Humble'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:jimmy@pacific.net">jimmy@pacific.net</a>>, "'Johanna Cummings'" <<a href="mailto:JC@wildoak.org">JC@wildoak.org</a>>, "'Katharine Cole'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:katharine@katharinecole.com">katharine@katharinecole.com</a>>, "'Linda MacElwee'" <<a href="mailto:lsmacelwee@hotmail.com">lsmacelwee@hotmail.com</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"'Lorena Calvo-Evans'" <<a href="mailto:lorejim8@yahoo.com">lorejim8@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Marcia Lotter'" <<a href="mailto:mlotter@mcn.org">mlotter@mcn.org</a>>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"'Marvin Trotter'" <<a href="mailto:trotterm@co.mendocino.ca.us">trotterm@co.mendocino.ca.us</a>>, "'Michael Arago'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:mmbarago@mcn.org">mmbarago@mcn.org</a>>, "'Norman de Vall'" <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org">ndevall@mcn.org</a>>, "'Patrick Gomes'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:gomes@mcn.org">gomes@mcn.org</a>>, "'Pippa Thomas'" <<a href="mailto:pipsteve@pacific.net">pipsteve@pacific.net</a>>, "'Richard Herr'"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:eandrherr@dishmail.net">eandrherr@dishmail.net</a>>, "'Rick Blaufeld'" <<a href="mailto:rick@mendocinoguitars.com">rick@mendocinoguitars.com</a>>, "'Ron<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Reed'" <<a href="mailto:mrdjreed@comcast.net">mrdjreed@comcast.net</a>>, "'Steve Garner'" <<a href="mailto:Sharonart_95432@yahoo.com">Sharonart_95432@yahoo.com</a>>, "'Tim<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bray'" <<a href="mailto:tbray@wildblue.net">tbray@wildblue.net</a>>, "'Verge Belanger'" <<a href="mailto:contactverge@yahoo.com">contactverge@yahoo.com</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I have a proposal in mind in regard to the Internet streaming side of the KZYX<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">broadcasts… Bear with me here:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">We currently create 3 streams in real-time:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 96 Kbps, mono encoded as stereo with high sample rate (44.1Khz)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 32 Kbps, mono encoded as ????? same sample rate [This is a target for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">“dialup” users,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">like,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">when<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">did<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ever<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">get<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">32K<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> on<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">dialup,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">like,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">um,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">never]<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 96 Kbps, mono encoded as ???? (checking) for a Shoutcast server<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Now I draw upon the collective memory about the Shoutcast connection—is it used<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for anything real??? The main stream is used to feed the jukebox (and more on<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that later, soon….) Shoutcast is a stream frontend, an “Internet Radio” index of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">sorts, basically micro-streamer marketing, however, this organization is a radio<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">station, we absolutely /are/ a marketing organization, we don’t need the shoutcast<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">exposure, it draws consumers away from our main product and the outlets for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">consuming them.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And in my opinion, that outlet should be of high quality.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The proposal: I want to totally eliminate the Shoutcast stream and dedicate that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">bandwidth to create a quality full-stereo stream.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Ugly—the small mixer that is used to control the levels on the streamer has<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reached the end of it’s life. The thing operates so hot that over time the solder<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">connections inside are suffering, the pan pot unseats and leaves the right channel<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">at 0db, it’s annoying to have to check it so much.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Bad -- when I was untangling cables in the rack last night, I discovered the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">source audio for the rack is being drawn from an output meant for an FM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">transmitter—it’s not an audio output at all (it just so happens that the low end<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of the IF /is/ the MONO part of the signal, but it’s a signal meant to be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">connected to an audio input, so I’m just shaking my head on this one.)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Good – the AudioIP system blade in the rack has many extra outputs (only one<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">really used, that’s the transmitter digital feed), and I want to create an analog<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">mirror output and feed that to a new little mixer, ultimately creating a stereo<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">input to the streamer device.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[Oh, I see Johanna is already on top of the sound of The Bad and The Ugly in a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">different email. Awesome! So, memories, feedback, help me out here folks, I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">want to move forward unless the current configuration is critical to some world<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">domination plan… J<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks all for tolerating my soapboxing!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Jerry Fraley<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Interim Operations Director<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">KZYX-FM & KZYZ-FM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">707-895-2324<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:jerry_fraley@yahoo.com">jerry_fraley@yahoo.com</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>