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This is an outrageous attack on reasoned analysis and community
based process I have seen on this list; all responses linked to
personal vendettas and deprecating a central theme of mission
discovery. I criticize Sackowitz for using the same "cut'n paste"
composition he dis-references to skew the purpose of Tim Gregory and
discredit the conversation. Tim did not dis Marco, unless you
needed to (mal)interpret the words for a personal white-hat charge.<br>
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I am amazed at someone who acts like a troll in many ways calling a
peaceful discoverer one. I have the impression that external
personalities are zeroing in on our community process with CIA like
precision; national trolls?<br>
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Who died and made Sackowitz the ultimate decider? Or angry Marco?<br>
We all know that community creation ultimately demands individual
participation and that KZYX is a vital instrument for us to practice
on and create that community of the future. <br>
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My next post will be a short paragraph on what I feel is the role of
KZYX in our rapidly evolving community. It will positively focus on
goals that will amplify our role in evolving our communities in an
extremely rapid field of evolutionary change. Love Is ~~BC<br>
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PS: Tim, thanks for changing the flame of fight into light.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/25/2015 11:37 AM,
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<div>Marco, my brother, you're wasting your time -- and
brilliant analysis -- here on this listserv with Mr. Gregory.
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<div>He's simply a troll on this list. <br>
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<div><b>From: </b>"Marco McClean" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:memo@mcn.org"><memo@mcn.org></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"kzyxtalk" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org"><kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@lists.mcn.org">discussion@lists.mcn.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:48:29 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Kzyxtalk] Tim Gregory's darling baby
gorilla-chicken.<br>
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"Tim Gregory" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net"><tgregory@saber.net></a><br>
> thanks for all the opinion all over again, marco, but i'm
not here to argue that.<br>
> write kzyx a better mission statement, if you can.<br>
> c'mon, you're a writer, give it a try. <br>
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What are you here to do, then? You never address any of
the many <br>
good points I have made; you just change the subject. It's
hand waving.<br>
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>Norman deVall wrote, "...The challenge is how to open a
conversation. <br>
Their response letter appears to be anything but. No easier to
talk with <br>
the Board than it was to talk with John."<br>
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> Tim Gregory replied: "...Sounds simple but early family
counselling <br>
has talks 'put the baby in the middle'--a point of agreement
where both <br>
parents want the best for the kid... KZYX May be 900# gorilla
baby, but <br>
it brings out the mother hen in all of us..."<br>
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Yeah, see, Tim, you never address /anyone's/ points. The
problem is <br>
the board and managers always have the advantage and can just
wait out <br>
and ignore any voices for change, anything at all that anyone
outside <br>
the bunker writes, any calls for transparency. They've been
selectively <br>
ignoring their own rules and their own mission statement all
along; how <br>
would a new one help?<br>
Waiting months for a board meeting and then driving two
hours to get <br>
there-- to speak to an angry, pursed-mouthed board for a timed
two <br>
minutes and then be shouted down by the belligerent packed
crowd of <br>
apologists for the board and people who benefit financially
from the <br>
station and deluded "programmers" who think their shows depend
on the <br>
status quo and who apparently love being bossed around by
control freaks <br>
and love not being paid to do the work while the bosses are
paid to <br>
pretend to work-- then waiting for the next meeting, and the
next, and <br>
the next, and so on, has got everyone exactly nowhere in 25
years. All <br>
writing anyone sends to the board stops with Stuart Campbell,
who <br>
filters what gets to the others. That's why it's so important
to have <br>
this conversation regularly on the air in prime time and on an
<br>
unmoderated forum on the station's web page, which the
insiders will <br>
never allow.<br>
The people who /are/ the problem are always either whining
or <br>
pontificating from their panic room inside the armored chest
of your <br>
giant robot gorilla. It can never be anything like a
counseling session. <br>
There's no level playing field. There's no bathwater. There's
no baby.<br>
I'll make a deal with you, Tim. You answer some of the
concrete <br>
points I've brought up in the last six months --the points
your mind <br>
most veers away from-- and then I'll consider writing
something you tell <br>
me to write; a mission statement, why not.<br>
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Just to ground us in reality: all MCPB's existing
transmitters and <br>
mixing boards and microphones and computers and peripheral
equipment, <br>
all together, cost less than $25 a day to operate. David
Steffen's and <br>
Mary Aigner's ridiculously well-paid positions are entirely
superfluous <br>
to the operation of the station. All the crucial tasks of any
radio <br>
station manager can be accomplished in a lazy afternoon per
month. The <br>
yearly CPB grant has always paid for the entire operation of
the KZYX <br>
--overhead, electricity, bookkeeping, tower fees, repairs,
internet, <br>
phones, music publishers' fees, NPR dues, plumbing,
everything-- twice <br>
over. Everything said on the air during every pledge drive,
about how <br>
"the station needs your money and pledges and memberships to
keep the <br>
great shows on the air" is a lie. These aren't opinions. These
are <br>
verifiable facts. Answer some of it, Tim.<br>
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Marco McClean<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:memo@mcn.org">memo@mcn.org</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com">http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com</a><br>
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