<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Marco, my brother, you're wasting your time -- and brilliant analysis -- here on this listserv with Mr. Gregory. </div><div><br></div><div>He's simply a troll on this list. <br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Marco McClean" <memo@mcn.org><br><b>To: </b>"kzyxtalk" <kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org><br><b>Cc: </b>discussion@lists.mcn.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:48:29 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Kzyxtalk] Tim Gregory's darling baby gorilla-chicken.<br><div><br></div>"Tim Gregory" <tgregory@saber.net><br>> thanks for all the opinion all over again, marco, but i'm not here to argue that.<br>> write kzyx a better mission statement, if you can.<br>> c'mon, you're a writer, give it a try. <br><div><br></div><br> What are you here to do, then? You never address any of the many <br>good points I have made; you just change the subject. It's hand waving.<br><div><br></div><br> >Norman deVall wrote, "...The challenge is how to open a conversation. <br>Their response letter appears to be anything but. No easier to talk with <br>the Board than it was to talk with John."<br><div><br></div><br> > Tim Gregory replied: "...Sounds simple but early family counselling <br>has talks 'put the baby in the middle'--a point of agreement where both <br>parents want the best for the kid... KZYX May be 900# gorilla baby, but <br>it brings out the mother hen in all of us..."<br><div><br></div><br> Yeah, see, Tim, you never address /anyone's/ points. The problem is <br>the board and managers always have the advantage and can just wait out <br>and ignore any voices for change, anything at all that anyone outside <br>the bunker writes, any calls for transparency. They've been selectively <br>ignoring their own rules and their own mission statement all along; how <br>would a new one help?<br> Waiting months for a board meeting and then driving two hours to get <br>there-- to speak to an angry, pursed-mouthed board for a timed two <br>minutes and then be shouted down by the belligerent packed crowd of <br>apologists for the board and people who benefit financially from the <br>station and deluded "programmers" who think their shows depend on the <br>status quo and who apparently love being bossed around by control freaks <br>and love not being paid to do the work while the bosses are paid to <br>pretend to work-- then waiting for the next meeting, and the next, and <br>the next, and so on, has got everyone exactly nowhere in 25 years. All <br>writing anyone sends to the board stops with Stuart Campbell, who <br>filters what gets to the others. That's why it's so important to have <br>this conversation regularly on the air in prime time and on an <br>unmoderated forum on the station's web page, which the insiders will <br>never allow.<br> The people who /are/ the problem are always either whining or <br>pontificating from their panic room inside the armored chest of your <br>giant robot gorilla. It can never be anything like a counseling session. <br>There's no level playing field. There's no bathwater. There's no baby.<br> I'll make a deal with you, Tim. You answer some of the concrete <br>points I've brought up in the last six months --the points your mind <br>most veers away from-- and then I'll consider writing something you tell <br>me to write; a mission statement, why not.<br><div><br></div> Just to ground us in reality: all MCPB's existing transmitters and <br>mixing boards and microphones and computers and peripheral equipment, <br>all together, cost less than $25 a day to operate. David Steffen's and <br>Mary Aigner's ridiculously well-paid positions are entirely superfluous <br>to the operation of the station. All the crucial tasks of any radio <br>station manager can be accomplished in a lazy afternoon per month. The <br>yearly CPB grant has always paid for the entire operation of the KZYX <br>--overhead, electricity, bookkeeping, tower fees, repairs, internet, <br>phones, music publishers' fees, NPR dues, plumbing, everything-- twice <br>over. Everything said on the air during every pledge drive, about how <br>"the station needs your money and pledges and memberships to keep the <br>great shows on the air" is a lie. These aren't opinions. These are <br>verifiable facts. Answer some of it, Tim.<br><div><br></div><br>Marco McClean<br>memo@mcn.org<br>http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org<br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>