<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11086" dir="ltr">The main difference is funding (public) and focus on local stuff (community). See excerpts below from Wikipedia; the one on community radio is very helpful in defining a mission. KZYX could be considered both. The low-power stations would probably be considered community radio but not public radio, as they receive no public funding and are not subject to CPB regulations (though there is some underwriting). It's those regulations that "define" what public radio can and cannot be.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11472" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11473" dir="ltr">Denny<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10769"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11100" style="" class="" dir="ltr"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11196" style="" class="">Public broadcasting</b> includes <a title-off="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11101" style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio" title="Radio">radio</a>, <a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11550" title-off="" style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television" title="Television">television</a> and other electronic <a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11894" title-off="" style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media" title="Mass media">media</a>
outlets whose primary mission is public service. In much of the world,
funding comes from the government, especially via annual fees charged on
receivers. In the United States, public broadcasters may receive some
funding from both federal and state sources, but generally most
financial support comes from underwriting by foundations and businesses
ranging from small shops to corporations, along with listener
contributions via pledge drives. The great majority are operated as
private not-for-profit corporations.<sup style="" id="cite_ref-1" class=""><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11971" style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting#cite_note-1"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11970" style="" class="">[</span>1<span style="" class="">]</span></a></sup></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11183" style="" class="" dir="ltr"><a style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting#cite_note-1"><br></a><b style="" class="">Community radio</b> is a <a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11198" style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio" title="Radio">radio</a> service offering a third model of radio <a style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting" title="Broadcasting">broadcasting</a> in addition to <a style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_broadcasting" title="Commercial broadcasting">commercial</a> and <a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11199" style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting" title="Public broadcasting">public broadcasting</a>.
Community stations serve geographic communities and communities of
interest. They broadcast content that is popular and relevant to a
local, specific audience but is often overlooked by commercial or
mass-media broadcasters. Community radio stations are operated, owned,
and influenced by the communities they serve. They are generally <a style="" class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization" title="Nonprofit organization">nonprofit</a>
and provide a mechanism for enabling individuals, groups, and
communities to tell their own stories, to share experiences and, in a
media-rich world, to become creators and contributors of media.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_11539"><br> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10759" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10758" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10757" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10768" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10760" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org" <kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:28 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Kzyxtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 35<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434830337821_10767" class="y_msg_container"><br>Send Kzyxtalk mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-owner@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-owner@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-owner@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Kzyxtalk digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: new GM and? executive director? (Tim Gregory)<br> 2. Re: verifying memories & deadlines (David)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:07:25 -0700<br>From: "Tim Gregory" <<a ymailto="mailto:tgregory@saber.net" href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net">tgregory@saber.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] new GM and? executive director?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:e573e3f31510a58d2eb24c8a91b299d0.squirrel@webmail.saber.net" href="mailto:e573e3f31510a58d2eb24c8a91b299d0.squirrel@webmail.saber.net">e573e3f31510a58d2eb24c8a91b299d0.squirrel@webmail.saber.net</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1<br><br>[This is a very good question, going to the heart of a lot of the friction over<br>interpretation of mission statement..<br><br>a better question might be, can you explain the current operative interpretation of<br>our mission statement? a complex question, requiring a complex answer...<br><br>...and a fair hearing]<br><br><br>---<br><br><br><br>Good morning David,<br>Can you tell me what the difference is between Community and Public radio?<br><br>Thank you,<br>Kelly<br><br><br><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:grimie@mcn.org" href="mailto:grimie@mcn.org">grimie@mcn.org</a>><br>On 6/20/2015 7:59 AM, David wrote:<br>> Doug.<br>> Can we please once and for all dispense with the lie that John Coate "insisted<br>that he be called Executive Director"?<br>> The 2008 job posting, which has been sent around on this thread for all to see<br>(including a post by one of the current board members) clearly stated that ED was<br>what they were looking for.<br>> Stop circulating another falsehood.<br>> David<br>> "KZYX&Z Community Public Radio in Philo, CA, is seeking a creative non-profit<br>professional to become Executive Director/General Manager of Mendocino County<br>Public Broadcasting.<br>> KZYX&Z is a full service station offering national programming from NPR, Pacifica,<br>APM, and PRI, as well as diverse local programming produced by more than 120<br>volunteers. As KZYX&Z celebrates its 19th birthday, we are looking for an<br>energetic, focused leader with fundraising and management skills to help us<br>achieve a new level of service for our community, members, and volunteers with our<br>upcoming digital conversion.<br>> The successful candidate is preferably one with a public broadcasting background<br>and strong planning skills. The candidate will be able to demonstrate a track<br>record of effective internal leadership; skill in building relationships with<br>organizations and individuals; and a history of effective fund raising. The<br>candidate must be an exceptional communicator, technologically literate, and<br>capable of overseeing and ensuring proper compliance with the financial, legal and<br>regulatory requirements of operating a public broadcasting station. The position<br>requires an understanding of the difference between community and public radio as<br>KZYX&Z is hybrid of both models.<br>> Find the full job description online in the careers section at<br>> http://kzyx.org.<br>> Send resume, references, and cover letter by June 15th to:<br>> jobs at kzyx.org<br>> or<br>> KZYX&Z<br>> Attn: Search Committee<br>> PO Box 1<br>> Philo, CA 95466"<br>> David Steffen<br>> KZYX Business Development<br>> (707) 895-2324 office<br>> (707) 322-9895 cell<br>> (707) 895-2451 fax<br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>] On<br>Behalf Of Doug McKenty<br>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:37 AM<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] new GM and? executive director?<br>> I believe the board is going to set up a hiring committee to oversee the process.<br>They are required by law to publicly post the job opening as part of the process.<br>> John Coate, to the best of my knowledge, insisted that he be called Executive<br>Director upon his hiring. He also insisted that he have total co tell over the<br>programming. He had an interesting interpretation of the role of the board,<br>basically relegating it to fundraising, while all station operations were the<br>preview of management. Any attempt by the board to set policy or effect<br>programming was considered "micromanaging." Let's hope they find a new anther<br>with a more inclusive philosophy.<br>> I, for one, hope they drop the "Executive Director" title altogether. Doug<br>> Sent from my iPhone<br>>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Kelly Grimes <<a ymailto="mailto:grimie@mcn.org" href="mailto:grimie@mcn.org">grimie@mcn.org</a>> wrote: Good morning,<br>>> What is the process for finding a person to replace Mr. Coate, the general<br>manager? Will that person automatically become the executive director of MCPB? <br>If the board of directors is responsible for overseeing the general manager, why<br>is the general manager the head of the board? This has always seemed a bit odd<br>to me and now appears to be a good time to discuss the true title and scope of<br>work for Mr. Coate's replacement. Does anyone have any factual information?<br>>> Thanks,<br>>> Kelly<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>> -----<br>> No virus found in this message.<br>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<br>> Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9983 - Release Date: 06/09/15 Internal<br>Virus Database is out of date.<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:28:50 -0700<br>From: "David" <<a ymailto="mailto:uw@kzyx.org" href="mailto:uw@kzyx.org">uw@kzyx.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] verifying memories & deadlines<br>To: "'Liz Helenchild'" <<a ymailto="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com" href="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com">deejayliz@yahoo.com</a>>, <<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>><br>Cc: 'Stuart Campbell' <<a ymailto="mailto:thales1104@comcast.net" href="mailto:thales1104@comcast.net">thales1104@comcast.net</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:0DA35D154056479AAA52CE3E5A2DBE3A@Underwriting" href="mailto:0DA35D154056479AAA52CE3E5A2DBE3A@Underwriting">0DA35D154056479AAA52CE3E5A2DBE3A@Underwriting</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Minutes have been on the web for years. Go through at your leisure. On the<br>KZYX website one only has to explore "About", look under "Station Business",<br>and click on "Minutes". As with all of the other ongoing incorrect<br>suggestions that there is a lack of transparency, one can find 7 years of<br>minutes posted by the General Manager and the board.<br><br> <br><br>David<br><br> <br><br>David Steffen<br><br>KZYX Business Development<br><br>(707) 895-2324 office<br><br>(707) 322-9895 cell<br><br>(707) 895-2451 fax<br><br> <br><br> _____ <br><br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Liz Helenchild<br>Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:30 AM<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>Cc: Stuart Campbell<br>Subject: [Kzyxtalk] verifying memories & deadlines<br><br> <br><br>In the service of winnowing out accuracy from hearsay, would it be possible<br>to find & cite minutes (or video or audio recordings) of past board<br>meetings?<br><br><br><br><br><br>Is the application period for GM now closed?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Liz<br><br> <br><br> _____ <br><br>From: Doug McKenty <<a ymailto="mailto:dougmck@gmail.com" href="mailto:dougmck@gmail.com">dougmck@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>> <br>Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:13 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] new GM and? executive director?<br><br><br>Thanks for the clarification. My source for the information was someone one<br>the hiring committee, but memories can be faulty. <br><br>I am not aware of any other "falsehoods" that I have circulated but am aware<br>that occasionally my sources may be inaccurate. If there are any other areas<br>where my sourced material differs from yours, I am always interested in<br>comparing them, so that myself and the community can get as close to a<br>realistic interpretation of the truth as possible. In this way we all make<br>better choices. <br><br>I would like to thank Norman DeValle for setting up this listserve allowing<br>the type of open and transparent communication necessary for this process,<br>and hope someday to hear his voice back on the air at KZYX. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>> On Jun 20, 2015, at 7:59 AM, David <<a ymailto="mailto:uw@kzyx.org" href="mailto:uw@kzyx.org">uw@kzyx.org</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Doug.<br>> <br>> Can we please once and for all dispense with the lie that John Coate<br>> "insisted that he be called Executive Director"?<br>> <br>> The 2008 job posting, which has been sent around on this thread for all to<br>> see (including a post by one of the current board members) clearly stated<br>> that ED was what they were looking for.<br>> <br>> Stop circulating another falsehood.<br>> <br>> David<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> "KZYX&Z Community Public Radio in Philo, CA, is seeking a creative<br>> non-profit professional to become Executive Director/General Manager of<br>> Mendocino County Public Broadcasting. <br>> <br>> KZYX&Z is a full service station offering national programming from NPR,<br>> Pacifica, APM, and PRI, as well as diverse local programming produced by<br>> more than 120 volunteers. As KZYX&Z celebrates its 19th birthday, we are<br>> looking for an energetic, focused leader with fundraising and management<br>> skills to help us achieve a new level of service for our community,<br>members,<br>> and volunteers with our upcoming digital conversion. <br>> <br>> The successful candidate is preferably one with a public broadcasting<br>> background and strong planning skills. The candidate will be able to<br>> demonstrate a track record of effective internal leadership; skill in<br>> building relationships with organizations and individuals; and a history<br>of<br>> effective fund raising. The candidate must be an exceptional communicator,<br>> technologically literate, and capable of overseeing and ensuring proper<br>> compliance with the financial, legal and regulatory requirements of<br>> operating a public broadcasting station. The position requires an<br>> understanding of the difference between community and public radio as<br>KZYX&Z<br>> is hybrid of both models. <br>> <br>> Find the full job description online in the careers section at<br>> <a href="http://kzyx.org./" target="_blank">http://kzyx.org. </a> <<a href="http://kzyx.org./" target="_blank">http://kzyx.org./</a>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Send resume, references, and cover letter by June 15th to: <br>> <br>> jobs at kzyx.org <br>> <br>> or<br>> <br>> KZYX&Z <br>> Attn: Search Committee <br>> PO Box 1 <br>> Philo, CA 95466"<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> David Steffen<br>> KZYX Business Development<br>> (707) 895-2324 office<br>> (707) 322-9895 cell<br>> (707) 895-2451 fax<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-bounces@lists.mcn.org</a>]<br>> On Behalf Of Doug McKenty<br>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:37 AM<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] new GM and? executive director?<br>> <br>> I believe the board is going to set up a hiring committee to oversee the<br>> process. They are required by law to publicly post the job opening as part<br>> of the process. <br>> <br>> John Coate, to the best of my knowledge, insisted that he be called<br>> Executive Director upon his hiring. He also insisted that he have total co<br>> tell over the programming. He had an interesting interpretation of the<br>role<br>> of the board, basically relegating it to fundraising, while all station<br>> operations were the preview of management. Any attempt by the board to<br>set<br>> policy or effect programming was considered "micromanaging." Let's hope<br>> they find a new anther with a more inclusive philosophy. <br>> <br>> I, for one, hope they drop the "Executive Director" title altogether. <br>> <br>> Doug<br>> <br>> Sent from my iPhone<br>> <br>>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Kelly Grimes <<a ymailto="mailto:grimie@mcn.org" href="mailto:grimie@mcn.org">grimie@mcn.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> Good morning,<br>>> What is the process for finding a person to replace Mr. Coate, the <br>>> general manager? Will that person automatically become the executive <br>>> director of MCPB? If the board of directors is responsible for <br>>> overseeing the general manager, why is the general manager the head of <br>>> the board? This has always seemed a bit odd to me and now appears to be <br>>> a good time to discuss the true title and scope of work for Mr. Coate's <br>>> replacement. Does anyone have any factual information?<br>>> Thanks,<br>>> Kelly<br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>> -----<br>> No virus found in this message.<br>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<br>> Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9983 - Release Date: 06/09/15<br>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.<br><br> <br><br><br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Kzyxtalk mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br> <br><br> _____ <br><br>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<br>Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9983 - Release Date: 06/09/15<br>Internal Virus Database is out of date.<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/pipermail/kzyxtalk/attachments/20150620/53a05c73/attachment.html" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/pipermail/kzyxtalk/attachments/20150620/53a05c73/attachment.html </a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br><br><br>End of Kzyxtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 35<br>****************************************<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>