<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px">Liz's perspective and comments are well taken. Our Buddhist friends remind us that what we perceive as a flaw is often born of personal suffering. Always better to focus on policies and procedures rather than personalities.<br><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7408"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7406"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7407">Beth's suggestion is similar to the one I floated earlier. The current policy of cutting off memberships-eligible-to-vote a full month <i id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7670">before</i> candidates declare for the board discourages involvement in the election process and wastes a great opportunity to expand the membership rolls. This is very similar to the national debate on barriers to registration and voting. Hopefully this will be part of many policy changes the board will adopt in the near future.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7666"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7407"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7623"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7407">The comments of such thoughtful and caring individuals have been very helpful personally, and hopefully will help guide our collective efforts for change.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7665"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7407"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7664"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7407">Denny</span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7238" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7237" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7236" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7453" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7239" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org" <kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:00 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Kzyxtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_7240" class="y_msg_container"><br>Send Kzyxtalk mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-owner@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-owner@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-owner@lists.mcn.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Kzyxtalk digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: KZYX (<a ymailto="mailto:nsi@mcn.org" href="mailto:nsi@mcn.org">nsi@mcn.org</a>)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:12:40 -0700<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:nsi@mcn.org" href="mailto:nsi@mcn.org">nsi@mcn.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] KZYX<br>To: Liz Helenchild <<a ymailto="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com" href="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com">deejayliz@yahoo.com</a>>, <a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434316489204_8001" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:e9bf03542dcc45a24f9ea583506c59282b54cb63@webmail.mcn.org" href="mailto:e9bf03542dcc45a24f9ea583506c59282b54cb63@webmail.mcn.org">e9bf03542dcc45a24f9ea583506c59282b54cb63@webmail.mcn.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>?<br> The best way to accomplish change is for this left-over Board to<br>immediately change the path to board membership by establishing a<br>date for eligibility to vote for Board candidates AFTER the closure<br>of the self-nominating procedure, perhaps with a mini-pledge drive<br>immediately after. ?You want the 400 people who have discontinued<br>their memberships back, you want a board that is more than a<br>do-nothing, close-minded, apologist entity, you want real inclusion<br>and diversity in programming and programmers. CHANGE THE DATE. ?And<br>while they are at it this board needs to force the discontinuation of<br>those CLOSED Board and Programmer lists serves before their asses get<br>sued for slander. --beth bosk<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Liz Helenchild" <br>To:"<a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>" <br>Cc:<br>Sent:Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:38:35 +0000 (UTC)<br>Subject:[Kzyxtalk] KZYX<br><br>King,<br>Nothing is forever. Except change, of course. Nobody is perfect, nor<br>can everyone in the KZ community always be pleased.<br>Set in motion by those who complain to Authority rather than try to<br>settle differences on the ground, the wheel of "justice" grinds on.<br>We will hear from Authority in due time.<br>Whatever the timing of his departure, John Coate's support of his<br>family, especially ancient mom, is appropriate. Many of us of & near<br>his generation must honor similar priorities.<br>As a longtime programmer & radio pro, I had (&? expressed) my own<br>agenda & list of criticisms re JC's management style & decisions.<br>Sadly, he tends to take criticism personally & may be too quick on<br>the "send" button.<br>I also found some of his actions praiseworthy. For one, the Jukebox.<br>Possibly my persistence helped bring about this expansion of our<br>offerings.<br><br>I hope the station can move in the direction of less autocracy. I<br>hope the very essential staff who keep it on air day by day by year<br>find ways to be open to more listener/member influence.<br>I look forward to all of us being constructive, patient, direct,<br>font-size:16px;"> <br><br>-------------------------<br> FROM: King Collins <br>TO: Jim Heid <br>CC: Announce Mendocino ; <a ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a> <br>SENT: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:25 AM<br>SUBJECT: Re: [Kzyxtalk] [MCN-Announce]- KZYX<br><br>JIm Heid said:?<br>John Coate is leaving for the very best reason: family. I'm sad to<br>see him go, I wish him and his family all the best, and I thank him<br>for the his tireless efforts at KZYX these last years.<br>Dear Jim,<br>As loyal critic, believer in community radio and a long-time<br>supporter of the station, and a devoted listener to Point and Clcik<br>Radio, I think your statement is very partial and your confidence<br>misplaced.<br>As you must know, because you are a member of the programmers list,<br>John Coate has attacked the critics as if we were liars and cheats,<br>and"haters." ?And most of his defamatory remarks were done<br>"confidentially" or in a venue in which those attacked could not<br>respond, like the programmers list. ?Here's an example, a leaked<br>memo to another closed list, the board only listserv. The things said<br>about me and others are false both in fact and in implication.?<br>So Jim, even if you support what Coate may or may not, have<br>accomplished, you can see that he is not a man of integrity.?<br>On June 10, 2015, Coate received a letter from five of us including<br>banned programmers and former board members. We cited the Corporation<br>Code and demanded to see financial and organizational documents which<br>had been denied to us, documents asking important questions like what<br>happened to the missing Ukiah studio funds.?<br>The day after he received the Demand Letter, John Coate resigned. ?<br>--King Collins, KZYX board 2003-2005<br>Below is part of a leaked memo from John Coate to the closed board<br>listserv, published in the AVA, Oct 9, 2013.?<br>"....I guess they (the critics) think this work is easy, or that if<br>we just let the ultra-left political peopple have their way, even<br>more money will flow into our coffers. All we have to do is get rid<br>of me, Mary and NPR and then install Christina and Sheila as the<br>local news people, join forces with KMEC, allow the listeners to vote<br>on programming or have a committee make the decision, and stage more<br>open lines type programs so that Sister Yasmin and Jeff Wright and<br>the other regular callers can even further express the true will of<br>the people while bashing what would by then be the former KZYX<br>management.In truth, Doug and his group are just yet another<br>iteration of the same battle over KZYX that are the same people who<br>tried to physically take over the station in the early 90s, they are<br>the same people who screamed at us in Fort Bragg in 2009. They are<br>the same people who vote for King Collins (who was only elected to<br>the Board the one time he was unopposed). That are the ones who say<br>we aren?t ?transparent? because, from what I can tell, we<br>haven?t allowed them to force us to get rid of NPR. In short,<br>despite whatever the argument du jour may be (this year it is not<br>following regulations and policies), at its heart the motivation is<br>political.Despite our still heavily leflt-leaning programming, we<br>still as a station do not take the correct side in most political<br>debates so that listeners can always hear ?the truth.? As for the<br>mission statement, ?programming and operational<br>philosophy...controlled by the membership? means things like a<br>professional staff with volunteer programmers, a mixture of music and<br>talk, national and local programs. And sure the membership, via the<br>Board does control that.But it also says that we are ?open to<br>all? and we ?reflect the rich diversity of the county? and we<br>seek to ?foster communication among all groups in the county.? We<br>on this staff take that very seriously and we strive for a station<br>that doesn?t take sides and does not favor any given faction.In my<br>view, Doug and his group are most unhappy with the fact that we do<br>this and do not favor a slant that gives even more airtime to their<br>side of an argument. As for the PAC (Programming Advisory Committee)<br>and programming policy, that was created specifically to help Mary<br>resist the pressure to change the programming in order to better<br>satisfy this same group of people and their friends who now claim<br>that it is being used for a purpose opposite of its reason for<br>existing in the first place.This is a crazy rewriting of history. Ask<br>anyone who was there for all of this: Johanna, Kathy Bailey, Diane and<br>many others who have fought this same battle again and again for<br>years. Doug is totally and dangerously wrong on this point.<br>Meanwhile, no complaint about music, one about the physical<br>infrastructure. It?s all a political battle. And one they have<br>never won. Do not cave in to this.?<br>* * * * * *<br>On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Jim Heid wrote:<br>John's public announcement:<br><a href="http://kzyx.org/index.php/about-us/station-business/general-managers-blog/entry/my-announcement" target="_blank">http://kzyx.org/index.php/about-us/station-business/general-managers-blog/entry/my-announcement</a><br>[1]<br><br>He's leaving for the very best reason: family. 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