<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Just want to clarify. It is my understanding</div><div>that Safe Harbor time does indeed apply</div><div>at KZYX. Profanity acceptable from 10pm</div><div>-6am. </div><div><br></div><div>The real reason why John S, myself, </div><div>Norman and many other over the years</div><div>have been canned is because we </div><div>stood up to the notion that Mary A. </div><div>have total control over programming. </div><div><br></div><div>Any programmer who disagrees with </div><div>Aigner about station policy will lose their</div><div>program. Everyone knows it. It is an </div><div>unwritten rule at the station. </div><div><br></div><div>There have been dozens of programs</div><div>canned over the years because of it. </div><div>Mary uses FCC regulations selectively</div><div>to remove programmers who challenge</div><div>her authority. </div><div><br></div><div>Doug</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 6, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Mary Massey <<a href="mailto:mkathrynmassey@gmail.com">mkathrynmassey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Marco, Thank you for your information and support. Yes, under current FCC regulations, public radio is to refrain from profanity, indecency and obscenity. I believe low power stations are permitted profanity after 10p at night, but <span class="" id=":n5.1" tabindex="-1">KZYX</span> doesn't fall into this category. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The larger idea here: Double Standard. Two women retained, (still with <span class="" id=":n5.2" tabindex="-1">KZYX</span>) three men thrown off the air. The two women aired CANNED content, the men, in the case of Doug and John S, were not in control of what was broadcast. Unless someone can prove emphatically that Norman <span class="" id=":n5.3" tabindex="-1">DeVall</span> wasn't thrown off the air after he complained of profanity in prime time, ( January 21, 2014) I stand by my comment that he was axed by <span class="" id=":n5.4" tabindex="-1">Aigner</span> because he rightfully shared observations and facts as they were presented before him, but that management didn't want to deal with. Losing all three men was a loss for the station.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The FCC profanity clause is one to live with for now. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Please, be aware of the axing of some and not the all with no ethical grievance procedure in place at the time that was/is neutral, fair, and satisfactory to all parties. All grievances go to the GM. The GM won't even speak to Mr. <span class="" id=":n5.5" tabindex="-1">Sakowicz</span>. How was/is John S going to have a fair grievance hearing? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">He won't.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b>The Members for Change, Face Book</b> is growing everyday. I was happy to see members in attendance last Monday, Annual Meeting, who found a paid staff person's shunning a board member completely unacceptable. Any other non-profit board would have removed the GM immediately! This recalcitrant behavior from John <span class="" id=":n5.6" tabindex="-1">Coate</span> is grounds for dismissal. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Never underestimate the power of one conversation- one person to another.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Talk about these issues with people in your community, your classes, at work, your churches, your neighborhood, and your families. Make people aware of not only your personal experience with <span class="" id=":n5.7" tabindex="-1">KZYX</span> staff, (we all have them,) but let people know that station management feels immune to repercussions from being out of compliance. The station will not be on the best footing until these people are removed and a new and open staff and board are functioning as they can and should. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Funding and underwriting will only continue to shrink as the same people give to the station. This phenomenon has NOTHING to do with individual volunteers, programmers and community members who have brought this fact to Management and in most cases, were turned away by management.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thirteen years ago, 2100 people were registered as members (2002.) The 20% sustainable increase in membership has never happened and has been flat for 13 years.<b> The</b> <b>strategic plan and the goals set out by the Board in 2002 were to position the station to realize this 20% goal. It has never happened. </b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Mary Massey</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span class="" id=":n5.8" tabindex="-1">KZYX</span>, Members for Change</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:22 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsi@mcn.org" target="_blank">nsi@mcn.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hey, Marco: I was living in Mendocino at the time. There was never ever a Programmers' meeting held at my home. Those heavy handed meetings were all at the station.<br>Nor would I have ever said, "I'm afraid of losing my show." Around that time Judi Bari was bombed and the FBI came to the station and told Donovan or Johnny they could not broadcast any announcement or whatever they received from any group or person that countered their narrative that Judi and Darryl Cherney blew up themselves. The programmer who was on the air when such a notice was put up on the window called me at home and asked me what they should do and I told them to tear down the Notice, that it was "prior restraint" (a term I had just learned). Clearly I was not frightened of reprecussions from the FBI and aired the updates from the hospital on my show each week, as well as reading excerpts from an interview I had recorded and published in New Settler with Judi Bari earlier that month. At no time was I afraid of losing my show. It was a great shock to my system that I did. Becoming your champion just wasn't very high on my agenda of things to do at the time, so involved was I in the practicalities of forestland defense. But you have mis-remembered that particular event. I remember intervening when Shawn indicated he would have you arrested, but it truly is not in my nature to have whispered to you afterwards a fear of losing 4th Gate Gazette. It was the only public affairs programming the station offered at the time in addition to being two consecutive hours of aOpen Line, gloriously used.--beth bosk<br><blockquote><br>----- Original Message -----<br><div style="width:500px;background:rgb(228,228,228)"><div style="font-weight:bold">From:</div> "Marco McClean" <<a href="mailto:memo@mcn.org" target="_blank">memo@mcn.org</a>></div><br><div style="font-weight:bold">To:</div><<a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>><br><div style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</div>"MCPB Board" <<a href="mailto:BOD@kzyx.org" target="_blank">BOD@kzyx.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:discussion@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank">discussion@lists.mcn.org</a>>, "OBrien Dennis" <<a href="mailto:dennisobrien@sharejerusalem.com" target="_blank">dennisobrien@sharejerusalem.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:editor@theava.com" target="_blank">editor@theava.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:mkathrynmassey@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkathrynmassey@gmail.com</a>><br><div style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</div>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:53:24 -0700<br><div style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</div>Re: [Kzyxtalk] Mary Massey's FCC complaint about Mary Aigner's having allowed some swear words to reach the air and the obvious double standard.<br><br><br>
Re: Mary Massey's FCC complaint about Mary Aigner's having allowed some <br>
swear words to reach the air and also having a double standard.<br><br>
--by Marco McClean<br><br>
On one hand I don't like the idea of people complaining about <br>
so-called dirty words that accidentally or artfully waft out onto the <br>
air, because it lends legitimacy to the screwy idea of it being against <br>
the law to just talk. It's not against the law to talk. On the contrary, <br>
it's unconstitutional to make any sort of law that even lightly chills <br>
talk, political or poetical or any other kind, at the beach, on the <br>
street or on the radio. The FCC pays better than mere lip service to <br>
this. Go to <a href="https://www.fcc.gov/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq" target="_blank">https://www.fcc.gov/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq</a> <br>
and scroll down to /What is the safe harbor?/<br><br>
On the other hand, Mary Massey, your complaint points up the <br>
hypocrisy in Mary Aigner and Co. airing swear words on their own account <br>
without receiving a retributive thumping, while they continue to use the <br>
same words as an excuse to throw others out and blackball them and <br>
ostracize them ever after, which KZYX has been doing since the <br>
beginning. It happened to me 25 years ago in 1989. Sean Donovan hated me <br>
with a hot hate, and he used to drunk-call me on the phone, when I was <br>
doing my show, and tell me things like that he just got up to piss and <br>
he decided to give his old pal Marrrr-co a ring. So what's going on, <br>
Marrrr-co? /Ugh./<br><br>
He waited until I described something as /bullshit/ (at two a.m) <br>
and that was it for me. No recourse, no opportunity to apprise others of <br>
the injustice, certainly no discussing it on the air --because no access <br>
to the air-- and then when I went to the next programmers' meeting to <br>
talk about it, Sean Donovan, the manager, was lording it over the <br>
programmers' meeting, and he told his flunky Johnny Bazzano to call the <br>
police (!) and have me arrested for trespassing at the radio station. <br>
Months later still, when I went to the next programmers' meeting at the <br>
private house of Beth Bosk, (who had stopped Johnny from calling the <br>
police by saying, "Sean! What are you doing!") she turned me away from <br>
that meeting at the door, because, she said quietly, "I don't want to <br>
lose /my/ show." But of course she lost her show anyway in the next <br>
crackdown on things even inching in the direction of being a little too <br>
free for the poobahs at the station to countenance.<br><br>
And a similar fate befell lots of people over the years. No-one in <br>
a position of authority at KZYX deserves that authority, nor ever has. <br>
All KZYX airpeople even today must be timid and careful in their public <br>
and private lives not to ever say or do anything that might turn the <br>
management's Eye of Sauron upon them. Because they don't want to lose <br>
/their/ show. And that's not freedom. Its oppressive bullshit. Sean <br>
Donovan set the tone for that and it's been the same song ever since.<br><br>
Jesus, Sean Donovan was a piece of work. I remember him giving an <br>
encouraging fundraising talk about how many old people there are in <br>
Mendocino County, and what a good idea it would be to encourage <br>
specimens near to meeting their maker to include KZYX in their will. "We <br>
might even call the old folks' homes" I: "Are you serious?" Sean: <br>
"They're gonna die anyway. And the station needs the money." That's <br>
right, it needed the money /to pay Sean/, just like it needs so much <br>
money now to pay John Coate and Mary Aigner and John Steffen and...<br><br>
Come to think of it, during the next-to-latest in its endless <br>
series of egregiously unlistenable pledge drives, in a moment I lingered <br>
on KZYX on my way up the dial to KNYO, I heard someone say something <br>
just like that-- encouraging listeners to consider putting KZYX in their <br>
will.<br><br>
A current frustration is that I want to write email to the other <br>
paying members of MCPB to point out how wrong it is that the operators <br>
of KZYX refuse to allow members to communicate with each other without <br>
being limited, censored and supervised. And I can't write email to the <br>
other members, because the operators of KZYX refuse to give out the <br>
membership list --they say it's for privacy reasons-- but it would be <br>
the work of fifteen minutes to put an open unmoderated forum on the <br>
subject of station business and operation somewhere on the front page of <br>
<a href="http://kzyx.org" target="_blank">kzyx.org</a>, where such a thing belongs. John Coate could do it tonight, on <br>
his iPhone, at the dinner table<br><br>
Another frustration is that everyone on the board and in management <br>
of KZYX pants-on-fire lies out loud when they say that the community and <br>
the members control the station. In real life there's no two-way <br>
communication between members of MCPB and the board-- neither in private <br>
nor on the air. I've written to the boardmembers on several occasions <br>
and have never got even a /got your email, thanks/ in response. I did <br>
once get an email from Stuart Campbell saying that the board all (except <br>
for one-- Sakowicz probably) agreed (in what must have been a private <br>
unposted session) on Stuart's response to me, which did not provide an <br>
answer to any of the questions I've ever asked them but instead was <br>
Stuart's one-sentence statement that the board fully supports John <br>
Coate. That's it. Oh, right, also I got email from Stuart Campbell in <br>
jumping caps and exclamation marks that their not sending me a ballot <br>
until it was too late for me to use it to vote was in no way to be <br>
construed as preventing me from voting in the board election! That was <br>
an election with like a 25% turnout, so how many others didn't get a <br>
ballot? And I did get a pleasant note welcoming me as a member of the <br>
KZYX family when they cashed my membership check, and with the note came <br>
a photocopy of the schedule of shows, none of them my show nor anything <br>
at all like it but, you know, thanks /so/ much for the money.<br><br>
Another frustration is that they flush away hundreds of thousands <br>
of dollars (!) every year to pay a handful of bobbleheads in the office <br>
to wander in and out and behave as they please, and pay everyone else <br>
nothing. Just the amount the management suite --Mary Aigner, John Coate, <br>
David Steffen, etc-- is paid would easily fully fund a dozen other <br>
little radio stations. Every membership dollar and even a little more <br>
goes directly into management's pockets; none of it helps the station in <br>
any way. Keep that in mind when you're asked to become a member and <br>
pledge money. If the managers were worth what they're being paid, KZYX <br>
would be the Cadillac of radio stations, and would distribute a full <br>
catalog of fine new local shows to hundreds of NPR stations. They're <br>
not, it isn't, and it doesn't.<br><br>
In addition KZYX receives vast sums of tax money every year, and in <br>
return for this it sits on a county-spanning collection of frequencies <br>
in the educational band and keeps out anyone who might say any of this <br>
on the air, much less do the kind of quirky innovative local free radio <br>
experimentation that the low end of the FM dial was set aside for. I <br>
want /my/ show on KZYX. It's a better show than most of what's there, <br>
including the NPR shows. And that's never going to happen until at least <br>
John Coate and Mary Aigner are removed, and-- I think I'm being very <br>
fair here, and I'm addressing the board specifically when I say this-- <br>
you don't have to remove them by firing them, if you're afraid to hurt <br>
their feelings; simply adjust their pay to be more in line with what the <br>
people actually doing the work of radio at KZYX are being paid --which, <br>
see above, is zilch-- and they'll quit on their own, demonstrating what <br>
they're really in it for in the first place. They're not in it for <br>
radio, and they're not good for the station.<br><br>
So I am a little conflicted about your complaint, Mary Massey. If <br>
your method of getting rid of bad, oppressive management just sets up <br>
whoever comes next to keep me and others like me on the outside for <br>
another eon, then the good news and the bad news cancel each other out. <br>
In another 25 years I'll be in my eighties. I and my listeners would <br>
like some positive action on this issue while I can still go several <br>
hours between toilet breaks and while I still have all my own teeth.<br><br>
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Marco McClean<br><a href="mailto:memo@mcn.org" target="_blank">memo@mcn.org</a> <br><a href="http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://MemoOfTheAir.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>
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