<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7789">David,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7822"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7787" dir="ltr">In pointing out that if notice of tonight's board meeting were posted in the most obvious, most accessible way on the central go-to place, I was suggesting that there could be no reasonable complaint of lack of transparency.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_8045" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7925" dir="ltr"> I come in peace.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7832" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7824" dir="ltr">Liz<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7746"><span></span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7757" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7756" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7755" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7791" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7759" size="2" face="Arial"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7805"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7804" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David <uw@kzyx.org><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7802"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7801" style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Liz Helenchild' <deejayliz@yahoo.com>; kzyxprogrammers@lists.mcn.org; kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 2, 2015 11:28 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [KZYX Prog] [Kzyxtalk] KZYX board meeting at the Fort BraggSenior Center, 6pm tonight (Monday night).<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7761" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv3759083228"><style>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7786" class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Liz.</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7769" class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7768" color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7767" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">The only people who believe there is a
lack of transparency are those who wish to create an issue where none exists.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Please note the completely erroneous
statement that I responded to: “I just checked the KZYX website and
found no notice of the board meeting anywhere, not even on the events calendar.
I only heard about it from . . . . .”</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7879" class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7878" color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7877" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">In this case, and to answer your response,
this was a person who knew about the meeting and theoretically knew how to look
for it, and yet declared that the meeting is “not even on the events
calendar”. </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7875" class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7870" class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7873" color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1422920049937_7872" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">“Whiff of a lack of transparency.”
Please. There have been random programmer reads, required log entries, a
rotating announcement in the automation, posting on the KZYX website, posting on
the event calendar, and inclusion on the community calendar recording. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">It’s tiring to read the
disinformation and misinformation circulated by some, which is occasionally
passed along as fact by others.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Bodoni MT Black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">David Steffen</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Bodoni MT Black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">KZYX Business
Development</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Bodoni MT Black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">(707)
895-2324 office</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Bodoni MT Black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">(707)
322-9895 cell</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Bodoni MT Black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">(707)
895-2451 fax</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;"></span></font></div>
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kzyxprogrammers-bounces@lists.mcn.org
[mailto:kzyxprogrammers-bounces@lists.mcn.org] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b> Liz Helenchild<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 02, 2015
11:06 AM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org ;
KZYX Programmers<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [KZYX Prog]
[Kzyxtalk] KZYX board meeting at the Fort
BraggSenior Center ,
6pm tonight (Monday night).</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="yiv3759083228MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" size="3" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Posting
board meeting announcements at the very top of the website should be standard
practice. Much less effective if it has to be looked for, which sorta
presupposes the seeker already knows about it.</span></font></div>
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think avoiding any whiff of lack of "transparency" at this point in
KZ history would work in the direction of peace.</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org ;
"'announce list @ MCN'" <announce@lists.mcn.org> <br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> discussion@lists.mcn.org <br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 2, 2015
7:08 AM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Kzyxtalk] KZYX board
meeting at the Fort
Bragg Senior
Center , 6pm tonight
(Monday night).</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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The KZYX Board Meeting is clearly posted on the Event Calendar, as it has<br clear="none">
been for more than a week. And it's flagged as a KZYX event to make it<br clear="none">
easier to spot. It's as difficult to find as selecting February 2, or<br clear="none">
searching the calendar for "KZYX" and the listing is there. <br clear="none">
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The KZYX Board Meeting has been announced on the recorded KZYX Event<br clear="none">
Calendar.<br clear="none">
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The KZYX Board Meeting announcement has been read live by programmers per<br clear="none">
the program log. <br clear="none">
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And it's been on the website for at least two weeks clearly marked under the<br clear="none">
tab "Station Business" and "Next Board Meeting". <br clear="none">
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David Steffen<br clear="none">
KZYX Business Development<br clear="none">
(707) 895-2324 office<br clear="none">
(707) 322-9895 cell<br clear="none">
(707) 895-2451 fax<br clear="none">
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On Behalf Of Marco McClean<br clear="none">
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:09 AM<br clear="none">
To: announce list @ MCN<br clear="none">
Cc: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:discussion@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:discussion@lists.mcn.org">discussion@lists.mcn.org</a><br clear="none">
Subject: [Kzyxtalk] KZYX board meeting at the Fort Bragg Senior Center ,
6pm<br clear="none">
tonight (Monday night).<br clear="none">
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KZYX board meeting, 6pm tonight (Monday night) at the Fort Bragg
<br clear="none">
Senior Center ,
490 North Harold Street ,
next to Cotton Auditorium. If <br clear="none">
I'm wrong about that, please correct it. I have to ask that of you <br clear="none">
because I just checked the KZYX website and found no notice of the board <br clear="none">
meeting anywhere, not even on the events calendar. I only heard about it <br clear="none">
from John Sakowitz.<br clear="none">
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There's a well-lighted parking lot with plenty of spaces. In the <br clear="none">
meeting there'll be an opportunity for you to blurt out a sentence or <br clear="none">
two, no more, but you don't have to say anything if you don't want to. <br clear="none">
Their board meetings are very few and far between and hardly ever take <br clear="none">
place in Fort Bragg , so...<br clear="none">
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