<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Just wanting to acknowledge that the ranter’s a...’s are predictable, gross, disappointing and beside the point…<div><br></div><div>The point being to…collectively…evolve the station...in the present…(not the past, nor an idealistic &nbsp;dream of a future)…but now...with all hands on deck…in current circumstances…with good will…best we can do…</div><div><br></div><div>I believe this a call and response situation. &nbsp;The mother hen pecks, pecks, pecks on her youngin’s shell. &nbsp; The emerging life responds with its own peck, peck, peck. &nbsp;Little by little they break through the shell.</div><div><br></div><div>All other attempts to produce something alive are really an act of violence.</div><div><br></div><div>Just saying…</div><div><br></div><div>Ann</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 16, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Liz Helenchild &lt;<a href="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com">deejayliz@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37604">Agreed, Diane. Tim, your meanspeak demeans you. Please practice Delete &amp; let the ranters show their own asses.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37662" dir="ltr">Liz<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37599"><span></span></div><br>  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37603" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37602" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37601" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37600" size="1">  <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Diane Paget &lt;<a href="mailto:dpaget@mcn.org">dpaget@mcn.org</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:tbray@wildblue.net">tbray@wildblue.net</a>; <a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:00 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Kzyxtalk] John…….<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413477725781_37663" class="y_msg_container"><br>Tim,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">You are being a bit black and white. There have been discussions and <br clear="none">ideas on the list worth reading . Just recently one about taking an <br clear="none">informal survey of KZYX listeners. I agree with you about the self <br clear="none">absorded rants -- but it is easy enough to delete them without reading <br clear="none">them if you don't want to.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Diane<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Tim Bray wrote:<br clear="none">&gt; If it showed any signs of moving toward those goals you articulated, I <br clear="none">&gt; would. <br clear="none">&gt; I'm not interested in reading endless rants by people who feel <br clear="none">&gt; personally wronged.<br clear="none">&gt; John Sacowicz is the new Sister Yasmin, utterly self-absorbed and <br clear="none">&gt; endlessly demanding attention.&nbsp; Who wants to listen to spoiled <br clear="none">&gt; children scream all the time?<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; Tim<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; On 10/15/2014 9:43 PM, Norman de Vall wrote:<br clear="none">&gt;&gt; I hope you've returned to KZYXtalk.<br clear="none">&gt;&gt; Norman<br clear="none">&gt;&gt;<br clear="none">&gt;&gt;<br clear="none">&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br clear="none">&gt;&gt; Kzyxtalk mailing list<br clear="none">&gt;&gt; <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br clear="none">&gt;&gt; <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk" target="_blank">http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk</a><br clear="none">&gt;&gt;<br clear="none">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; -- <br clear="none">&gt; Ecology Hour &lt;<a shape="rect" href="https://ecologyhour.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">https://ecologyhour.wordpress.com/</a>&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; Oak &amp; Thorn &lt;<a shape="rect" href="http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com</a>&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; Facebook: Oak and Thorn<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yqt4111823107" id="yqtfd84866"><br clear=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