<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I dunno, Tim.<div>The last two hours have been pretty cool</div><div>Your post is the only example</div><div>of chronic outrage that I see here....<shrug></div><div>You got sumpthin' against Scots playin' the spoons</div><div>on "your" air? Or Norman's question?</div><div>~C.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Norman de Vall <<a href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org">ndevall@mcn.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">May 27, 2014 10:02:42 AM PDT</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b>Re: [Kzyxtalk] Community Vision and Community Adviosry Boards</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Rather than spending more time on "right or wrong", let's ask <div>the question: How are and to whom are the Members able</div><div>to express their views, opinions and suggestions regarding</div><div>programming?</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><br><div><div>On May 27, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Tim Bray wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>This is dispiriting. I'm trying not to take it personally, but when <br>someone suggests that I and the other volunteers who spend hours every <br>month preparing and producing our shows aren't "enrolled" or no longer <br>love what we do, it makes me wonder if there's any point to continuing.<br><br>This List has become what I feared: a forum for chronic malcontent, <br>rather than a place for constructive discussion of potential <br>improvements. I think I will abandon my efforts to present my own <br>perspective and just let you all wallow in outrage.<br><br>Tim Bray<br><br>On 5/22/2014 5:24 PM, Kristina Almquist wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">After all this I can barely comprehend why anybody would volunteer <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">their time for a program on KZYX. <b>I've known a few, back in the day, <br></b></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><b>and they played music they loved, and discussed topics of concern and <br></b></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><b>often produced shows for many years. They were enrolled, I was <br></b></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><b>enrolled, the station was not a stick in the mud. </b>I get more from the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">kzyxtalk list than the station! Sorry state of affairs.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Kristina Almquist<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Kzyxtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">Kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br>http://lists.mcn.org/mailman/listinfo/kzyxtalk<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#0000ff" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); "><i>CSwan</i></font></div></div></span></span></div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12px; "><i><</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12px; "><a href="mailto:cswan@willitsonline.com"><font color="#0000f2" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 242); "><i>cswan@willitsonline.com</i></font></a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12px; "><i>></i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#0000ff" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); "><i>NOTICE: This e-mail mesage is intended only for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. 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