
<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hmm. I did not receive it in my email account. And as you can see from my last post, it was reported to be an html doc that was scrubbed.<div><br></div><div>When I click on the notice (that the html was scrubbed, I get the following which is decisperable, but evidently not what you see. --king</div><div><br></div><div>* * * *</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">&lt;html&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;head&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;meta&nbsp;content="text/html;&nbsp;charset=ISO-8859-1"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;http-equiv="Content-Type"&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/head&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;body&nbsp;bgcolor="#FFFFFF"&nbsp;text="#000000"&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;div&nbsp;class="moz-cite-prefix"&gt;This&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;valid&nbsp;point.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;There&nbsp;has&nbsp;been<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;some&nbsp;replacement;&nbsp;my&nbsp;research&nbsp;indicates&nbsp;a&nbsp;net&nbsp;shift&nbsp;from&nbsp;local&nbsp;to<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;syndicated&nbsp;of&nbsp;5.5&nbsp;hours/week&nbsp;of&nbsp;public-affairs&nbsp;programming&nbsp;and&nbsp;4<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hrs/wk&nbsp;of&nbsp;music&nbsp;programming&nbsp;since&nbsp;2009.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;think&nbsp;this&nbsp;was&nbsp;a<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;management&nbsp;goal,&nbsp;so&nbsp;much&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;series&nbsp;of&nbsp;ad-hoc&nbsp;decisions&nbsp;when<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;situations&nbsp;arose.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Diane&nbsp;is&nbsp;undoubtedly&nbsp;correct&nbsp;that&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;much<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;relative&nbsp;burden&nbsp;on&nbsp;staff&nbsp;of&nbsp;syndicated&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;local<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;production.&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Training&nbsp;and&nbsp;supervision&nbsp;of&nbsp;programmers&nbsp;-&nbsp;old&nbsp;and&nbsp;new&nbsp;-&nbsp;is<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;something&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;requesting&nbsp;more&nbsp;of&nbsp;for&nbsp;years.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;got&nbsp;some<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;excellent&nbsp;pledge-drive&nbsp;training&nbsp;back&nbsp;in&nbsp;2007,&nbsp;which&nbsp;made&nbsp;an<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;immediate&nbsp;and&nbsp;noticeable&nbsp;improvement.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Vance&nbsp;Crowe&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;held&nbsp;some<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;workshops&nbsp;the&nbsp;following&nbsp;year,&nbsp;but&nbsp;since&nbsp;then&nbsp;we've&nbsp;had&nbsp;the<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;financial&nbsp;crisis&nbsp;and&nbsp;lost&nbsp;4&nbsp;full-time&nbsp;staff&nbsp;members,&nbsp;so&nbsp;programmer<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;training&nbsp;(which&nbsp;takes&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;time&nbsp;and&nbsp;effort)&nbsp;hasn't&nbsp;been&nbsp;a<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;priority.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Rich&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;training&nbsp;people&nbsp;when&nbsp;new&nbsp;equipment&nbsp;is<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;installed&nbsp;and&nbsp;whenever&nbsp;individuals&nbsp;have&nbsp;specific&nbsp;questions,&nbsp;but<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it's&nbsp;a&nbsp;huge&nbsp;burden&nbsp;on&nbsp;him&nbsp;to&nbsp;try&nbsp;to&nbsp;improve&nbsp;the&nbsp;skills&nbsp;of&nbsp;100+<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmers&nbsp;while&nbsp;keeping&nbsp;the&nbsp;equipment&nbsp;operating.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Mary&nbsp;seems&nbsp;to<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;have&nbsp;her&nbsp;hands&nbsp;full&nbsp;just&nbsp;managing&nbsp;all&nbsp;those&nbsp;people&nbsp;and&nbsp;plugging<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;holes&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;schedule&nbsp;when&nbsp;someone&nbsp;takes&nbsp;a&nbsp;vacation.&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;helpful&nbsp;for&nbsp;anyone&nbsp;who&nbsp;shares&nbsp;Diane's&nbsp;concerns<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;about&nbsp;local&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;syndication,&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;value&nbsp;of&nbsp;training<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmers,&nbsp;to&nbsp;write&nbsp;letters&nbsp;expressing&nbsp;their&nbsp;concerns&nbsp;to&nbsp;station<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;management&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;Board.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;It&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;especially&nbsp;helpful&nbsp;if&nbsp;this<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;were&nbsp;done&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;non-confrontational&nbsp;way,&nbsp;without&nbsp;accusing&nbsp;staff&nbsp;of<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;malfeasance&nbsp;etc.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Simply&nbsp;make&nbsp;known&nbsp;your&nbsp;desire&nbsp;for&nbsp;more&nbsp;local<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programming&nbsp;and&nbsp;better&nbsp;training&nbsp;for&nbsp;programmers.&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;change&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;wholeheartedly&nbsp;in&nbsp;favor&nbsp;of:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;improving&nbsp;the&nbsp;quality&nbsp;of&nbsp;our&nbsp;product,&nbsp;especially&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;parts&nbsp;we<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;produce&nbsp;locally.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;It's&nbsp;not&nbsp;easily&nbsp;done,&nbsp;in&nbsp;part&nbsp;because&nbsp;people&nbsp;get<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pricklish&nbsp;when&nbsp;you&nbsp;ask&nbsp;them&nbsp;to&nbsp;improve&nbsp;-&nbsp;they&nbsp;often&nbsp;take&nbsp;that&nbsp;to<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;mean&nbsp;you&nbsp;think&nbsp;they&nbsp;aren't&nbsp;quite&nbsp;good&nbsp;enough&nbsp;already.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Some<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmers&nbsp;have&nbsp;no&nbsp;desire&nbsp;to&nbsp;improve&nbsp;or&nbsp;do&nbsp;anything&nbsp;differently<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;than&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;already&nbsp;doing.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;Change&nbsp;is&nbsp;always&nbsp;resisted.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's&nbsp;also&nbsp;quite&nbsp;difficult&nbsp;to&nbsp;find&nbsp;and&nbsp;develop&nbsp;talented&nbsp;local<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmers&nbsp;who&nbsp;will&nbsp;make&nbsp;the&nbsp;commitment&nbsp;to&nbsp;a&nbsp;regular&nbsp;radio<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;shift.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;In&nbsp;that&nbsp;regard,&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;remarkable&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;so<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;many,&nbsp;given&nbsp;our&nbsp;population&nbsp;and&nbsp;demographics.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;From&nbsp;conversations<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;with&nbsp;station&nbsp;staff,&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;say&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;always&nbsp;looking&nbsp;for&nbsp;new<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmers&nbsp;and&nbsp;are&nbsp;frustrated&nbsp;by&nbsp;how&nbsp;difficult&nbsp;the&nbsp;search&nbsp;is.&amp;nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All&nbsp;the&nbsp;best,&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tim&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;--&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;a&nbsp;href="<a href="http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com">http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com</a>"&gt;Oak&nbsp;&amp;amp;&nbsp;Thorn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Facebook:&nbsp;Oak&nbsp;and&nbsp;Thorn&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On&nbsp;5/16/2014&nbsp;5:48&nbsp;PM,&nbsp;Diane&nbsp;Paget&nbsp;wrote:&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;blockquote&nbsp;cite="mid:<a href="mailto:5376B1E0.8030309@mcn.org">5376B1E0.8030309@mcn.org</a>"&nbsp;type="cite"&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;pre&nbsp;wrap=""&gt;I&nbsp;would&nbsp;rather&nbsp;address&nbsp;the&nbsp;larger&nbsp;problem&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;replacement&nbsp;of&nbsp;local&nbsp;<br>programming&nbsp;(due&nbsp;both&nbsp;to&nbsp;censorship&nbsp;and&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;fact&nbsp;that&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;easier&nbsp;to&nbsp;<br>slip&nbsp;a&nbsp;CD&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;machine&nbsp;than&nbsp;to&nbsp;train&nbsp;and&nbsp;supervise&nbsp;new&nbsp;programmers)&nbsp;<br>with&nbsp;national&nbsp;programming&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;deterioration&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;quality&nbsp;of&nbsp;what&nbsp;I&nbsp;<br>can&nbsp;hear&nbsp;on&nbsp;KZYX.<br><br>&lt;/pre&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;div&nbsp;class="moz-signature"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/body&gt;<br>&lt;/html&gt;<br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 16, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Diane Paget wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>King,<br><br>Tim's message was posted to the list and was totally readable.<br><br>Diane<br><br><br>King Collins wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Tim Bray,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Over the last weeks, a couple of your messages have been lost because the content is in html and is scrubbed. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Please repost &nbsp;your last message which was in response to Diane. If in doubt change the format to "plain text."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--king<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Here's what your message looks like from the archives, and I don't think anything is posted to the list although I'm not sure about that: &nbsp;<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote ty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