<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt">David G,<br><br>Do you really think all the meanspeak gratuitously posted on KZlists & others sets a good example of public discourse for the kidz? Have you considered that it might be a mercy if nobody outside the shrinking geezer demographic discovers the deep discourtesy of their elders?<br><br>I am not ready to trade privacy for hipness.<br><br>Liz<br><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Gurney <jugglestone@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org <br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:25 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Kzyxtalk] Does it help or harm?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2476147754"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv2476147754gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia, serif;font-size:small;">Like it or not, Facebook has been, and still is the "social media" site of choice for the younger generation. If you or your event is not on Facebook, it doesn't exist.</div>
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Liz Helenchild <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com">deejayliz@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2476147754gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="yiv2476147754yqt7491000304" id="yiv2476147754yqt35318"><div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;">Tim, don't we all tend to suppose our Pet Thing is the center of the universe? I feel a little less naked on KZ Talk than on Facebook, in that Facebook has a much, much wider audience than our little radio-related site, plus visuals.<br clear="none">
Liz<br clear="none"><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"></font><div class="yiv2476147754"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tim Gregory <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tgregory@saber.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net">tgregory@saber.net</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a> <br clear="none">
</div><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:15 AM<div><div class="yiv2476147754h5"><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Kzyxtalk] Does it help or harm?<br clear="none"> </div></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv2476147754h5"> <div><br clear="none">a fb group is not 'either-or', it's just another OPTIONAL venue for chat. open or<br clear="none">closed, it would need good admin. wondering what makes you feel more secure on this<br clear="none">
list?<br clear="none">---<br clear="none"><br clear="none">You are not alone.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Apr 3, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Liz Helenchild <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:deejayliz@yahoo.com">deejayliz@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Please, never on Facebook!!! Am I alone in refusing to hand over the last shreds of<br clear="none">my online privacy?<br clear="none">Liz<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: Tim Gregory <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tgregory@saber.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tgregory@saber.net">tgregory@saber.net</a>><br clear="none">
To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br clear="none">Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:54 PM<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Kzyxtalk] Does it help or harm?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">thanks for facilitating some chat thus far here (and over the years), norman...would<br clear="none">it be hoping too much, that you admin a facebook group?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">it has been noteworthy the station staff, as well as volunteers, have represented<br clear="none">
here.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">while there will always be posturing, from my limited experience, i think group<br clear="none">members CAN mature into a 'community' here or on facebook--with open-ended concerns<br clear="none">
[threads] that persist based on genuine interest...<br clear="none"><br clear="none">discussion, what a concept...<br clear="none">---<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yo, Norman,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
In a perfect (or even slightly improved) world, we would be airing our discussions<br clear="none">on our listener-sponsored airwaves. Soon, I hope. Meanwhile, I'm for keeping the<br clear="none">KZtalklist going. Gentler souls can always deploy the DELETE option when the feces<br clear="none">
fly.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Peace,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Liz<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">________________________________<br clear="none">From: Norman de Vall <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ndevall@mcn.org">ndevall@mcn.org</a>><br clear="none">
To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a><br clear="none">Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014
5:43 PM<br clear="none">Subject: [Kzyxtalk] kzyxtalk…Does it help or harm?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ann,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I had hoped, when I launched kzyxtalk some months ago, it would provide<br clear="none">
a forum to express ideas, differences and eventually find co-operative<br clear="none">suggestions that would benefit the station. A forum which station management,<br clear="none">board, members and listeners could raise issues which could not be broadcast.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Indeed, what an irony? To go to the internet to discuss what could not be<br clear="none">said on any radio program being aired.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Once again I was overly optimistic that we would contribute, build and do better.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">But if kzyxtalk has become a platform to tear down the station and find only<br clear="none">fault, I ask you, should I take
down the kzyxtalk list.serv?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I would appreciate yours and others opinion.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Norman<br clear="none">kzyxtalk host<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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