<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">The Question to ask the Board & the GM is how have they contributed to making our public radio station a participatory Community organization.<br> Coate Is Not the Executive Director of KZYX as he claims. There is no mention of such a position either in the Bylaws or in the Public Files required by the FCC (at the Philo studio). He has been caught lying several times-- confronting me at a Board meeting and misstating that the position of Executive Director was written, not only in his contract but in Belinda Rawlins contract. He knows, of course, that no one can peer into his contract but the Board of Directors. In checking with a Board member during Rawlins' time, I was told that the position of Executive Director was a "non issue", meaning that it was never
discussed.<br> People who go along with Coates' analysis of top down management of the station find their status at the station on a fast incline from not a known entity to station programmer to paid news position all without any discussion from either the Board (at least in public) or the members. Is this a democratic or autocratic style of management?<br> Sheila Dawn Tracy<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:36 PM, Paul Lambert <paul.lambert55@yahoo.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2667595080"><div><div
style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span></span></div><div class="yiv2667595080yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:35 PM, Paul Lambert <paul.lambert55@yahoo.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv2667595080y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2667595080"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>No one put me up to posting the Board's letter. So many people
were talking about it so I went to the website, read it, copied it and posted it - because I thought people would be interested.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>There is no conspiracy except in your own minds.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Let's get on with the work of mmaking KZYX better and that has little to do with the Board or even less with the management but with the listeners and the programmers.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Let's stopping playing the old blame game, get down to
real issues and get on with it.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>This isn't the 1990's or KPFA; you ;lost that battle then, so why re-fight it when all you can do is hurt the very institution you claim to support.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Paul Lambert</span></div><div class="yiv2667595080yqt9787658316" id="yiv2667595080yqt18745"><div class="yiv2667595080yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:42 PM, "nsi@mcn.org" <nsi@mcn.org> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv2667595080y_msg_container"> <br clear="none"> Who is Elaine Herring? And why has she passed the task of making the<br clear="none">Board's letter public, on to a former employee of the station? <br clear="none">To shield her personal contact
information I would guess. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ms. Herring (not of the Anderson Valley Herrings) resided in Ukiah<br clear="none">two years before
she managed a seat on the Board of Directors of<br clear="none">KZYX/Z. And now she is the Chair. <br clear="none">A Chair who shudders at the prospect of in-person, public, and<br clear="none">video-streamed Board meetings. Who has reduced the frequency of<br clear="none">those public meetings to even less than what the Board itself<br clear="none">recently agreed to. <br clear="none"> <br clear="none">Herring has no Institutional memory regarding the station. She is<br clear="none">comparing John Coate's performance with Belinda Rawlins, the ditz who<br clear="none">went through the bank draw and then vanished. And the same Board who<br clear="none">sat clueless while Rawlins went through a $200,000 draw, hired Coate. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Does anyone have contact information for Elaine Herring to share.<br clear="none">She's not listed in the phone book. The Board does not list their<br clear="none">email addresses
on the station website. <br clear="none">Elaine does not answer email directed to her through the station<br clear="none">website. <br clear="none">I'd like to know, for instance, how Elaine Herring is connected to<br clear="none">RemCo, a plant along Highway 101 on the fringe of Ukiah, which<br clear="none">manufactures parts for nuclear weaponry. And whether that connection<br clear="none">(if it exists) has any bearing. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">So the Board Members statement below, devoid of any opportunity for<br clear="none">Public Input, decided upon behind the curtain of the board<br clear="none">listserv--where they are not supposed to meet as a full group to come<br clear="none">to decisions regarding the station: those are tasks and deliberations<br clear="none">to be performed in Open Board meetings, or NOTICED Closed Sessions<br clear="none">(when assessments of personnel are the subject of evaluation or<br clear="none">scrutiny) .
<br clear="none">I am really interested in how these board members came to what they<br clear="none">profess to "know." And how they have juggled the figures independent<br clear="none">of Coate. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">And Paul Lambert. He too with the tiny Institutional memory; he too<br clear="none">with a smidgen of experience of residency in Mendocino County: who<br clear="none">was paid the full $20,000 of the allotted News Department budget to<br clear="none">do a daily 5 minute reading of submitted PR pieces, plus excerpts<br clear="none">from the Santa Rosa Press Democrat and (occasionally) Ukiah Daily<br clear="none">Journal, often without attribution. The most criticized venture ZXYX<br clear="none">has ever engaged in. And was rewarded with the slot previously held<br clear="none">by Open Lines. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">For those of you with Institutional memory: Remember the struggle at<br clear="none">Pacifica. The
struggle against the machinations of the Pacifica Board<br clear="none">background:rgb(228,228,228);">From: "Mitch Clogg" <br clear="none">To:"Mendocino Listserv" , <br clear="none">Cc:"scott peterson" , "Bruce Anderson" <br clear="none">Sent:Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:29:55 -0800<br clear="none">Subject:[MCN-Discussion]- Fwd: [Kzyxtalk] The KZYX's board letter to<br clear="none">Members<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> This is an extraordinary letter. Squint at it. I've never seen one<br clear="none">like it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Consider the Board of Directors, at the bottom. These are the<br clear="none">directors <br clear="none"> of a controversial and floundering radio station. The skimpy I.D.'s<br clear="none">of <br clear="none"> each raise more questions than they answer (like, what interest does<br clear="none">a <br clear="none"> health-club manager in Santa Rosa have in a Mendocino public-radio <br clear="none"> station?). Lots of
others. How enlightened and "progressive", on <br clear="none"> average, are realtors?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> I reject nonsense about "balance" at KZYX, meaning the business and <br clear="none"> conservative communities deserve equal air time--or any promised <br clear="none"> time-allotment, anymore than Islam should be entitled to build a<br clear="none">minaret <br clear="none"> in the Vatican. The Mendocino radio audience can be considered in<br clear="none">the <br clear="none"> light of our voter registration. Democrats, Greens, Independents and<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Peace-and-Freedom voters represent a much higher share here than <br clear="none"> elsewhere, so the question of what's "middle ground" in this<br clear="none">demographic <br clear="none"> will yield an answer that is unique to this place. It's as<br clear="none">Left-leaning <br clear="none"> here as the Leaning Tower of Pisa. The radio station has always
been<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> more conventional and Establishment-friendly than its listeners. (It<br clear="none">was <br clear="none"> founded by a wine salesman.)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> In other words, the socio-political "neutral" place here is not the<br clear="none">same <br clear="none"> (duh!) as it is in Dallas, Texas, Charleston, South Carolina or<br clear="none">Riyadh, <br clear="none"> Saudi Arabia. This is obvious, but it is inevitably overlooked<br clear="none">(except <br clear="none"> by those who benefit from ignoring the Environmental-Progressive<br clear="none">people <br clear="none"> in favor of the chamber-of-commerce people, in the station's<br clear="none">decisions).<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Station management will counter this by pointing out all the <br clear="none"> folk-friendly shows on air. None has had keen-enough teeth to add<br clear="none">any <br clear="none"> note to the coastal breeze,
and the station's management, far from <br clear="none"> fostering the "OUR THING" jubilation that has characterized, say,<br clear="none">KMUD <br clear="none"> (to name just one of numerous good stations), keeps the shades drawn<br clear="none">as <br clear="none"> much as the law allows.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Consider, too, that wherever there is a money stream, as there is <br clear="none"> whenever KZYX has a pledge drive, there is always somebody with a<br clear="none">straw <br clear="none"> stuck in that stream. It is folly to assume that things are on the<br clear="none">up & <br clear="none"> up there.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Mitch Clogg<br clear="none"> Mendocino<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> -------- Original Message --------<br clear="none"> Subject: [Kzyxtalk] The KZYX's board letter to Members<br clear="none"> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:16:28 -0800 (PST)<br clear="none"> From: Paul Lambert <br clear="none">
Reply-To: Paul Lambert , <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a> [1] <br clear="none"> To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk@lists.mcn.org</a> [2] , <br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org">kzyxtalk-request@lists.mcn.org</a> [3] <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> The State of the Station February 2014<br clear="none"> We are eight of the nine Directors on the Board of Mendocino County <br clear="none"> Public Broadcasting. We are pleased to report on the remarkable<br clear="none">STATE <br clear="none"> OF THE STATION.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> · We know that KZYX&Z is financially secure.<br clear="none"><br
clear="none"> · We know that the station is ready and able to provide the <br clear="none">
community with critical, lifesaving information and news when needed<br clear="none">in <br clear="none"> an emergency.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> · We know that we offer programs that listeners enjoy and <br clear="none"> depend on hearing in their daily lives.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> · We know that the station has a devoted, stable membership.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> · We know that the station is making necessary technical <br clear="none"> improvements to its infrastructure and equipment to improve our<br clear="none">signals <br clear="none"> and minimize/eliminate downtime.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> And we know that we owe much of this progress, this success, to the <br clear="none"> efforts and accomplishments of our General Manager John Coate and<br clear="none">his <br clear="none"> staff.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Business/Finances:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We give our General Manager
full credit for turning around the <br clear="none"> stationâ??s finances. When John Coate was hired in 2008, KZYX was<br clear="none">more <br clear="none"> than $200K in debt. At this time (Feb. 17, 2014) we have more money<br clear="none">in <br clear="none"> the bank than we owe. We could pay every bill we have, past and <br clear="none"> present, and still have funds in the bank Our $75K line of credit<br clear="none">has <br clear="none"> not been touched since November, and has been untouched for 8 out of<br clear="none">the <br clear="none"> past 12 months.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> For the past 3 years our audits, prepared by an independent <br clear="none"> professional, have included a cover letter declaring that there are<br clear="none">no <br clear="none"> irregularities or problems with our bookkeeping and accounting<br clear="none">practices.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> John retired $116K in old debts last fiscal year. He
restructured<br clear="none">our <br clear="none"> remaining debt into a single no-interest monthly payment, which we<br clear="none">have <br clear="none"> made without fail for almost two years.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> John reorganized our membership department to ensure more timely and<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> consistent mailings, such as pledge acknowledgement letters.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> John shares all financial information with the Board in a way that<br clear="none">is <br clear="none"> prompt and upfront. During his tenure as GM he has become an expert<br clear="none">in <br clear="none"> managing a highly unpredictable cash flow and implementing cost<br clear="none">control <br clear="none"> measures.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Operations/Infrastructure:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We installed a new backup power generator at the Philo studio. In<br clear="none">the <br clear="none"> past, the
entire station would go off the air every winter,<br clear="none">sometimes <br clear="none"> for days at a time, due to power failure. This no longer happens.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Now we have<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> a new Emergency Alert System<br clear="none"> a new main control console in Philo<br clear="none"> a new state-of-the-art antenna for KZYX 90.7<br clear="none"> a new and improved program automation system<br clear="none"> a digital storage unit to begin building a comprehensive digital<br clear="none">music <br clear="none"> library.<br clear="none"> backup equipment for various parts of the signal path resulting in<br clear="none">far <br clear="none"> less downtime when something breaks<br clear="none"> We have changed the way the satellite studios connect to Philo,<br clear="none">saving <br clear="none"> hundreds of dollars each month in phone charges.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We rebuilt every part of
the equipment required for the 88.1 signal<br clear="none">on <br clear="none"> Bald Hill above Fort Bragg. Now it is trouble-free.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We replaced the unit that converts audio to a radio signal to a<br clear="none">higher <br clear="none"> quality unit that greatly improves the fidelity of the broadcast.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We completely rebuilt the kzyx.org website in 2012, relying<br clear="none">primarily on <br clear="none"> the efforts of staff and volunteers<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> There have been numerous improvements to office and studio<br clear="none">components <br clear="none"> such as computers, microphones, CD players, etc. and the Philo<br clear="none">studio <br clear="none"> building has been rewired for better reliability.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Programming:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We have a dedicated volunteer staff of about 100 programmers who<br
clear="none">provide <br clear="none"> a quality product, week in and week out. We have 31 local<br clear="none">programmers <br clear="none"> and 17 local programs on the air today that were not on the air in <br clear="none"> August 2008 when John began. These include Mendo Matters, Give and <br clear="none"> Take, Consider This, The Sonic Blender, Portrait in Jazz as well as<br clear="none">many <br clear="none"> others. We are constantly looking to update our programming to keep<br clear="none">it <br clear="none"> fresh, and we continue to welcome new programmers and new program<br clear="none">ideas <br clear="none"> that will help us to better serve our community. We expanded our<br clear="none">local <br clear="none"> news coverage with the addition of Michael Kisslinger and veteran <br clear="none"> reporter and producer Sheri Quinn.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> We, the undersigned trustees on the MCPB Board of Directors, are<br
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